NEW here, Advise On Cycle

[jshizzle]

Hello everyone,

I am new here, been a guest for some time and have done a lot of reading. I am looking for mature and realistic feedback. I am 32, and have been lifting for 10 solid years. I live a highly active lifestyle and train pretty hard and try to watch what I eat. I have always used over the counter supplements and only found myself getting pretty jacked but not shredded or the results I've always desired. Plus all of the money that I spent, you know how that goes. But last April before my wedding, I did my first cycle and absolutely loved it. My average build is 5-8 and 175-185. Here is what I took:

Deca-Durabolin & Albuterol

I started with the Deca and saw very good gains in mass and strength, but of course, I got a little bloated. I then ended with the Albuterol, which got em somewhat shredded but not what I expected. The major downfall was my back...broke out horrifically. I have very good skin and it was still enough to keep me from taking my shirt off at times.

Here is a general diet that I follow:

Breakfast: Oatmeal & Fruit

Lunch: Some kind of turykey/chicken sandwich (light mayo), water, and a veggie if possible

Dinner: Usually a red/white meat, starch, veggie

I'm not going to lie, I socially drink once a week or ever other week. Also, I do now and then, eat what I want. Because I work midnights, I do not get to go out a lot. Which also helps but screws my diet up. I go to the gym and work out at least 5-6 days a week. I am pretty jacked, but I am not as shredded as I would like. For my age and size, I bench press around 315 for 2-3 reps right now, sometimes more. I feel that I am in good shape for my size.

Here is what I am looking to get info on from experienced people. I would like to at least keep my current size, if any, gain a little bit. But I would like to get shredded, but without the heavy acne. Not sure if there is a formula in regards to stacking or the cycle dose etc, to help limit this. I have access to the stuff etc, but I would like your honest opinion, recommendations and any advice which you may have. Please don't talk shit or any of that, I am not immature or here for bs. I'm serious about being in shape and am just looking for good info. Thanks again and appreciate you guys taking the time to read my crap lol.

~ J

Also, if you need more info from me, please ask, and I'll be as honest as i can be. If you recommend certain diets etc to, I am all ears!!! And if certain over the counter vitamins and sups etc

[Hazard]

Hello everyone,

I am new here, been a guest for some time and have done a lot of reading. I am looking for mature and realistic feedback. I am 32, and have been lifting for 10 solid years. I live a highly active lifestyle and train pretty hard and try to watch what I eat. I have always used over the counter supplements and only found myself getting pretty jacked but not shredded or the results I've always desired. Plus all of the money that I spent, you know how that goes. But last April before my wedding, I did my first cycle and absolutely loved it. My average build is 5-8 and 175-185. Here is what I took:

Deca-Durabolin & Albuterol

I started with the Deca and saw very good gains in mass and strength, but of course, I got a little bloated. I then ended with the Albuterol, which got em somewhat shredded but not what I expected. The major downfall was my back...broke out horrifically. I have very good skin and it was still enough to keep me from taking my shirt off at times.

Here is a general diet that I follow:

Breakfast: Oatmeal & Fruit

Lunch: Some kind of turykey/chicken sandwich (light mayo), water, and a veggie if possible

Dinner: Usually a red/white meat, starch, veggie

I'm not going to lie, I socially drink once a week or ever other week. Also, I do now and then, eat what I want. Because I work midnights, I do not get to go out a lot. Which also helps but screws my diet up. I go to the gym and work out at least 5-6 days a week. I am pretty jacked, but I am not as shredded as I would like. For my age and size, I bench press around 315 for 2-3 reps right now, sometimes more. I feel that I am in good shape for my size.

Here is what I am looking to get info on from experienced people. I would like to at least keep my current size, if any, gain a little bit. But I would like to get shredded, but without the heavy acne. Not sure if there is a formula in regards to stacking or the cycle dose etc, to help limit this. I have access to the stuff etc, but I would like your honest opinion, recommendations and any advice which you may have. Please don't talk shit or any of that, I am not immature or here for bs. I'm serious about being in shape and am just looking for good info. Thanks again and appreciate you guys taking the time to read my crap lol.

~ J

Also, if you need more info from me, please ask, and I'll be as honest as i can be. If you recommend certain diets etc to, I am all ears!!! And if certain over the counter vitamins and sups etc

First off..... welcome to the board. You've come to the right place for advice!

Before you start any more cycles you'll need to get your diet in check. Visit the diet section of the baord and lets those guys help you find some kind of eating schedual that works for you.

Once that is taken care of..... you can start thinking about aas. If you're looking to cut up i'd consider running a lower dose of test to help you maintain your current size while being able to diet properly to lose fat. As far as acne goes..... how bad it is will vary greatly from person to person. There are ways to help control it..... goto the stickies at the top of the steroid Q&A and click the "link database" thread..... in there is an "acne control" link. You can also use the search function to find other threads.

It seems like you have a pretty good handle on training..... but if you want to switch things up or tweak your routine.... theres a forum section for that also. Lastly..... are you familiar with PCT (post cycle therapy)? If not..... you'll really need to research that to the point of understanding it as it's important not just for the retention of your gains but also to help maintain testicular function.

Good luck and keep asking questions as needed - thats what we're here for

~Haz~

[tomt45]

I think you need to do a bit of research before we can help you out. Your first cycle was a really bad idea. Your first cycle should always consist of only testosterone. Testosterone should be the base of every cycle. You never want to run any steroid but especially a 19nor without test...

Your diet is not good at all. You don't eat nearly enough. You need to eat much more frequently and consume way more protein!!

What kind of gains did you get from your first cycle and did you keep these gains? Did you run a ai? What did you do for pct?

Normally the best way for these guys to help you out would be for you to come up with the layout of a cycle, including what ai you will use and what your plan for pct is.

If you just want to cut up and aren't all that concerned with putting on mass I wouldn't even bother with steroids. Work on your diet and do some more cardio.

What is your bf% now and what would you like to get to?

I suggest you go to the diet and nutrition section and do some research on your diet. Your diet really needs work!!

[jshizzle]

I appreciate your responses, I am just going over your replies and will provide an updated list of diet and current body condition etc

Thanks for the mature replies!