Track athlete??

[eliteathlete]

im a track and field athlete.. specialise in 60m 70m and 100m. i dont know anyother way to explain this witch you have probaly herd over and over that top level athletes are using steroids "fact" i know of athletes been caught using steroids professionally that arnt running times close to Olympic level. so that just says that top level use them... anyway

i was just wondering what sort of performance drug do you think is nessecary for developing power and speed. ive been looking into anavar and herd alot about winstrol but dont wanna go near that..
any thoughts or previous use and experience?

[eliteathlete]

no one seems to know nothing guess im in the wrong website

[swm1972]

no one seems to know nothing guess im in the wrong website

Pretty much all of us focus our steroid use on the body building aspect. Not much interest around here in track and field.

[BigGuy90]

Pretty much all of us focus our steroid use on the body building aspect. Not much interest around here in track and field.

Respectfully so, that doesn't mean members here on this forum don't know which steroids are good for athletic use.

[tryingtoimprove]

I'm not a pro by any means, but I've read that anavar creates CRAZY pumps. I don't know how that may effect your workouts or training. But a good thing about anavar is that it builds lean muscle mass, no bulk.

[spiketannin]

no runner should ever take winstrol

[BigGuy90]

no runner should ever take winstrol

Agreed. Winstrol is hard on the joints. What are your stats btw before anyone gives you advice on aas?

[eliteathlete]

20 years old
5'9 - 175cm
82-83kg
12-14%bf and fairly strong.
yeh ive herd alot of bad shit about winstrol dont really wanna go near it..
i know my weight is also a key factor on speed but im working on it as we speak..??
so any ideas

[gearbox]

Way to young for aas. I bet you would be faster especially more explosive if you dropped into the 10% bf range by getting a spot on diet. I would head over to the diet section and look around. A lot of bro science out there on what society thinks is a good diet compared to what actually is.

[BigGuy90]

AAS can permanently have a negatively impact your hpta and endocrine system if used to early because your hormones and hpta are not fully developed yet. The members here will advise you to not use under the age of 24. I would bust your ass on the track doing some plyos, bounding, explosive exercises and eat like there's no tomorrow. A clean diet though

[DanB]

Pretty much all of us focus our steroid use on the body building aspect. Not much interest around here in track and field.

Alot of fighters on the board and he is looking for power and speed, I reckon alot ot people here are educated in the areas he is asking

[DanB]

Gearbox is on it lately, I agree with his advise and to be honest I have never even seen a sprinter at 14% b/f

You need to improve your diet and drop bodyfat, your carrying unnecessary weight which in turn will slow you down,

Go as far as you can naturally before you even consider any ped's

[gearbox]

Gearbox is on it lately, I agree with his advise and to be honest I have never even seen a sprinter at 14% b/f

You need to improve your diet and drop bodyfat, your carrying unnecessary weight which in turn will slow you down,

Go as far as you can naturally before you even consider any ped's

thanks DanB..
i did not want to rip on the op and his bf because it is not bad. However, DanB is right about where your body fat should be. I help coach football and many of my young athletes run track in the off season and I cant tell you how many who be a lot faster off the start if they lost those unwanted pounds because they are pounding cheese burgers and fries. I am not saying that you are op, I am just relating to the fact that you sound extremely serious and if that is the case I would be in single digits body fat. yes you heard me single digits. good luck

[ScotchGuard02]

20's too young. AAS's not a short cut. You have many years of natural performance enhan***ent potential.

[eliteathlete]

yeh but you guys find it hard to understand once you hit a time and your stuck you platue for a wile.. i cant see my self getting fast then what i am at the moment in 10.89 ive been at this for nearly 8months... but yeh guess the body fat range would make a difference but there are sprinters there that are same height and weight as me that can run low 10's high 9's

[eliteathlete]

yeh but dropping body fat without dropping strength and power is pretty hard though intervals i do at training, are pretty intese on the legs but training lethargic is shit cause you never train at 100%...
was wondering what your thoughts were on the natrual test boosters..

[V-ROID]

If you put half as much effort into fixing your diet as you are looking for an easy solution you should easily and quickly drop to sub 10%bf in a short time. It is painfully obvious that even though you think you have a great diet, and maybe it is a lot better than the average slob, you really have no idea how much a proper diet can transform you in the person that you desire to be. Post up everything, exactly that you consumed yesterday (3/3/2012). I double-dog dare you! If you find that too embarrassing, then just spend a few hours reading over in the diet section. Countless threads there of people who came here for same reason as you. Some listened, learned, took advice and changed their lives by changing their diet. Diet is the most powerful "supplement" at your disposal!

[ScotchGuard02]

eliteathlete, I know exactly how you're feeling. The biggest dream in my life was to be a professional athlete. If I would have known about AAS when I was a kid I think my life would have turned out different. Better? Worse? I don't know but definitely different. Now that I'm older and more experienced I have a different perspective of my life. AAS will definitely give you the edge but at your age it could also take away a part of your future. There are a lot of posts on this forum of 21 yo guys lamenting about their limp units. I have great kids and a family that wouldn't trade for the world. Not ever a world record of some kind. At your age, the world is NOW! Be patient, there is a life after track. If you decide to go the AAS route, against expert advice, you gotta be ready to take the consequences. Good luck.

[eliteathlete]

my weight training is pretty intense to.. so i mean calories would just be getting burned but dunno what im doing wrong.. my track training is intese i do like about 1000-1200m in sprints all up.. possibly more somenights...

i dunno what sorta diet im gunna need with the training i do.. to fuel up and to drop body fat

[eliteathlete]

VEGAN-O-ROID -- i cant exactly tell you my diet cause it changes day to day but ill tell ya what i have anyway

breakfast can be anything from can of baked beans and eggs(at 5-6 maybe less then another 4 later on)

then im usually in the gym at 10:00am - 10:30 training til 12:30 or so then ill come home eat 2 cans of tuna, muslibar

then i can have low fat cottage cheese like 350g with 35g protien..

then ill have a marsbar before training.. witch works out well energy for training

then when im home ill eat broccoli either chicken or eggs or protien like i said
it changes day to day but its not like its out of wack but it could be alo better..


anysorta ideas you guys have got in mind for me ???

[V-ROID]

VEGAN-O-ROID -- i cant exactly tell you my diet cause it changes day to day but ill tell ya what i have anyway

breakfast can be anything from can of baked beans and eggs(at 5-6 maybe less then another 4 later on)

then im usually in the gym at 10:00am - 10:30 training til 12:30 or so then ill come home eat 2 cans of tuna, muslibar

then i can have low fat cottage cheese like 350g with 35g protien..

then ill have a marsbar before training.. witch works out well energy for training

then when im home ill eat broccoli either chicken or eggs or protien like i said
it changes day to day but its not like its out of wack but it could be alo better..


anysorta ideas you guys have got in mind for me ???

Can of baked beans:maybe 300cal with 60carbs 20g sugar
6 eggs: 211 calories x 6 - 1250c 17p2c14f x 6 -
cottage cheese
mars bar - 26g sugar
not sure what a mulibar is but prolly loaded with sugar and carbs...

My guess is you are addicted to sugar and don't realize it (most people are). Vast majority of obesity, or just unwanted BF, is caused from the body converting sugars and crappy carbs like flour to insulin. Body can't use it so it has no choice but to store it as fat. Sign up somewhere free like myfitnesspal.com and use it to track you macros. The automated profile will get you close enough just so you can see where you are going over or lacking. I bet if you kicked sugar, should take a week or two for lethargy and maybe headaches to subside, you would be an energized fat burning machine. This place is awesome for content also: http://nutritiondata.self.com/

[Razor]

Taking steroids is going to kill your endurance

[DanB]

Can of baked beans:maybe 300cal with 60carbs 20g sugar
6 eggs: 211 calories x 6 - 1250c 17p2c14f x 6 -
cottage cheese
mars bar - 26g sugar
not sure what a mulibar is but prolly loaded with sugar and carbs...

My guess is you are addicted to sugar and don't realize it (most people are). Vast majority of obesity, or just unwanted BF, is caused from the body converting sugars and crappy carbs like flour to insulin. Body can't use it so it has no choice but to store it as fat. Sign up somewhere free like myfitnesspal.com and use it to track you macros. The automated profile will get you close enough just so you can see where you are going over or lacking. I bet if you kicked sugar, should take a week or two for lethargy and maybe headaches to subside, you would be an energized fat burning machine. This place is awesome for content also: http://nutritiondata.self.com/

I agree with the above

Good advise

[eliteathlete]

i fail to see how im addicted to sugar.. cause the baked benas i eat has no sugar... cottage cheese has 3.5 servings at 4g of sugar as of 6g of carbs 4g of them being sugar.. mars bar would be the only thing im having with sguar

[V-ROID]

Heres where I got the baked bean sugar content: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...roducts/7698/2
Your brand may very... You could be close to 100grams of sugar a day and not know it. Count calories for one day at the previous link I gave, put in EVRYTHING from vitamins to water, to mars bars. Will be easy to see if your macros are out of whack.

[DanB]

well it seems like your cals are getting bumped from somewhere if your 14% and training the way you do

now dont get me wrong i aint knocking 14% at all but what i am saying is that you would preform better at 8%

so to do that you need a spot on diet with logged macros to keep track of it

hence my reason for agreeing with the above, yes addicted to sugar may be a bit extreme but i think point he was trying to make was more you are taking unnecessary sugar from somewhere, not noticing and hence the 14%

try jack3d instead of mars, you will notice big difference lol

my heinze baked beans has almost 30g sugar per tin, the cheaper brands generally have even more

things like fizzy drinks, alcohol, even certain food like breaded chicken,fish fillets has massive amounts of simple carbs and fats which you may not even realise

so again using the program to log macros is a good idea, then go for a 500 cal deficit

[eliteathlete]

well it seems like your cals are getting bumped from somewhere if your 14% and training the way you do

now dont get me wrong i aint knocking 14% at all but what i am saying is that you would preform better at 8%

so to do that you need a spot on diet with logged macros to keep track of it

hence my reason for agreeing with the above, yes addicted to sugar may be a bit extreme but i think point he was trying to make was more you are taking unnecessary sugar from somewhere, not noticing and hence the 14%

try jack3d instead of mars, you will notice big difference lol

my heinze baked beans has almost 30g sugar per tin, the cheaper brands generally have even more

things like fizzy drinks, alcohol, even certain food like breaded chicken,fish fillets has massive amounts of simple carbs and fats which you may not even realise

so again using the program to log macros is a good idea, then go for a 500 cal deficit

i tried jack3d it was rubbish 1 scoop 2 scoops 3 scoops 4 scoops did nothing, if anything my performance went downhill with food and without food i was trial and error with that doesn't seem to work well.. if someone could help me with a proper diet on this sorta thing..
it would be much appreciated

[DanB]

If you go to the Nutrition Section and make a thread listing your current diet, stats and goals then the guys there will sort you out

There is an abundance of guys more knowledgeable than myself that frequent that section so thats why Im sending you there and not helping you myself, they the experts in that field, Im not just being lazy lol

Best of luck bro