3rd cycle..1st real one..need advice

[SteveM]

I joined this forum to get real advice from people who know what they are talking about..There is sooo much info, its makin my head spin. Long story short..I did 2 previous cycles of Test E 500mgs a week.12 weeks .my body responded real well, no problems at all..i didnt even have any PCT...i was very naive and trusted the guy who was giving them to me..he turned out to be an idiot and we are no longer friends.. I want my next cycle to be done properly

Im 34 yrs old 6ft3 270 Bf 17-20 percent Train hard..MMA, and HIT strength training...

I have bad knees..bone on bone and have heard deca is good for this..so im thinking of doing a deca test E cycle...this time with some pct in order..Im going to buy everything i need before i do it..so im researching and asking the pros..thats you guys..

i would really like to cut weight while doing this cycle as well..ideally would like to get to 240-245..

Any comments would be greatly appreciated..and if im doing something dopey, please feel free...im not sensitive..lol

[gixxerboy1]

the deca relief for joints is temporary.
I would just get on a good diet and cut naturally

[BBrian]

Most people are going to tell you that you need to get your bf% down first. The more bodyfat, the more estrogen side affects you will encounter. This is even moreso considering the rate at which test and deca aromatize. It will be very plausible to presume that you're going to be fighting a battle with gyno and hardcore bloating. That being said, given your stats and history I'd look at around 600-700mg test every week and 250-400mg of deca per week. And yes, deca does wonders for joints. Just be careful with the severity of your knee issue, it may motivate you to actually injure your knee further by having a temporary fix. If you're easy on it, though, you may find that deca will actually render some permanent healing in there. It's certainly provided this benefit for my shoulder. On the subject of estrogen, it is paramount that you take a regular dose of an AI while taking these compounds. 0.25-0.5mg every other day should suffice, but again I highly recommend you trim some fat before starting this cycle. Look at it as priming your body for a cycle.

[Thunderforge]

Hi Steve!

I'm pretty new to this as well but feel I can contribute here a little. I'll leave most of your questions unanswered and let the vets chime in, however in regards to Deca and your joints I can add a little.

I am running a Test Deca cycle also and have had difficulty with my joints in the past as well so I was hopeful too! Here's what I found. ALL my minor tendon issues are pain free at the moment. It's really quite remarkable to me. BUT I have a slightly more serious issue with one shoulder that really requires me to just lay off. I think that you are most likely hoping for too much from the compound if your knee really is "bone on bone" like you say. Hate to be negative, perhaps someone with more experience will have more insight.

Best of luck though!

[Razor]

hi steve!

I'm pretty new to this as well but feel i can contribute here a little. I'll leave most of your questions unanswered and let the vets chime in, however in regards to deca and your joints i can add a little.

I am running a test deca cycle also and have had difficulty with my joints in the past as well so i was hopeful too! Here's what i found. All my minor tendon issues are pain free at the moment. It's really quite remarkable to me. But i have a slightly more serious issue with one shoulder that really requires me to just lay off. I think that you are most likely hoping for too much from the compound if your knee really is "bone on bone" like you say. Hate to be negative, perhaps someone with more experience will have more insight.

Best of luck though!

shazam!!!

[SteveM]

thanks guys...The knee problems arent that bad, I can squat and run a bit..i have some scar tissue in there and there is no pain..i just cant do plyometrics..that's where i get swelling and problems...i have heard of people getting some permanent healing from deca and was kinda hoping i might receive some of that...

Makes sense to drop some body fat first...the last time i did test..my body seemed to love it..i was def a bit smaller..about 250....im dieting now and looking to do this cycle in about 2 months..just want to buy everything I will need...making sure i get the right stuff and this time take it the right way...

[SteveM]

sorry i was reading one of the senior members posts, and he says to run a cycle no longer than 8 weeks...this contradicts everything else ive read about deca and test e.....should i just take more per week and run it shorter?

[gixxerboy1]

sorry i was reading one of the senior members posts, and he says to run a cycle no longer than 8 weeks...this contradicts everything else ive read about deca and test e.....should i just take more per week and run it shorter?

no they are long esters and need to be run atleast 10 weeks no matter what dosage

[SteveM]

Thank you..i was thinking 12 weeks?....Im from the school of thought that more is always better..i know that's not always true..but Im from NY, and cant help it..lol

[BBrian]

Indeed, 8 week cycles are for short esters. I wouldn't be too concerned with that right now unless you're interested in completely changing the way you cycle.

[gixxerboy1]

12 weeks is fine.
I'm from jersey, I know how it goes

[SteveM]

I want to just do it right..if you guys knew how i did the first two cycles..i would be laughed right out of this forum...it was very bad and irresponsible

[SteveM]

i will get my weight down a bit before starting this cycle....Does anyone have a link to somewhere on here for a simple deca test e cycle with PCT...say 12 weeks? what i would need to purchase and how to take it by week?

[Flier]

I want to just do it right..if you guys knew how i did the first two cycles..i would be laughed right out of this forum...it was very bad and irresponsible

Well, we have never done cycles like that

[SteveM]

i apologize to you guys...I just went on a reading tear and am starting to see how things work around here..lots of info on this site....Im just glad I didn't create a post on where or how to get a source...lol