First cycle ever, a little advice would be great

[Alex66]

Hey everyone, im 21, 5' 10" and 197 pounds at 9.8 percent bodyfat. I know many people say not to take steroids until you are around 25 because it messes up your natural hormone production, but ive been done growing height wise for years, and have pretty much come to a huge plateau with training, im pretty sure that ive come close to my genetic natural limit. And i know its not my diet or training that is a problem, trust me they are both close to perfect. I've been training for 5 and a half years now and want to compete but id like to get bigger as well which is why ive decided to try a cycle of steroids.

I've researched them alot and was thinking of either trying a cycle of dianabol (25 mg a day) and testosterone enanthate (500mg a week) or deca and testosterone enanthate. Does this seem like a good stack for gaining mass or is there a better cycle i could use?

Also, im curious about injecting the testosterone ethalate. I dont have a problem with needle, but from what ive heard, the site of the injection is very painful and extremely sore the next few days. How does that work since most people inject in their legs or glutes, how could they train legs after?

As far as PCT goes should i just take nolvadex and HCG?

and how long should t use this cycle for, and when do i start PCT and how long does it last for?

also, what should i expect to gain and keep?

Thank you everyone for your help, i really appreciate it!

[maxmuscle1090]

i always suggest to anyone running there first cycle just stick with the basics..run test e at 500 mg for ten weeks dnt worry about the decca and dbol for now save that for your later cycles when your more experienced.. run nolva two weeks after your last injection considering the 15 day half life of enathate for a good 4 weeks as your pct and u should be fine..as far as sorness after injection you shouldnt feel much soreness from test e usually test prop would be more of a issue with that.. ive nvr had much of a problem with soreness running test e..also i get in the habbit of injecting in the delts for me personally its just the easiest place to pin when pining your self

[blksavage]

I'm sure everyone else will advise you to wait til your atleast 25 but heyits your body

[AD]

the problem with starting AAS at a young age is not just limiting your height. since the hormonal system may not be fully matured, AAS is a sudden, sustained and high dose influx of external hormones into your system. you brain may then set a new permanent level for testosterone maintenance, and this could be irreversible. your body will then produce only enough of testosterone to maintain at this new level, which will be much too low compared to your natural levels.

this will be permanent and irreversible. which means you may have to live the next 50-60yrs with testosterone deficiency