do it get on the insulin ???????

[hillbill78]

okay so im on cycle & my freinds have been using insulin with great gains. legit source as its all pharma stuff in the pens. can get it for free and am thinking of starting to use it as of monday at 4iu's a day and upping it as i go on. poss use it for 4 weeks. whats the low down on insulin. is it great for gains etc and can it be used fairly safely ? i hear its the most anabolic things there is and my freind says as long as i eat high carbs after my training/injection i should be fine ?????

[Capebuffalo]

Unless your a pro stay the f**k away from slin. It can kill you. One
Mistake is all it takes. Seen to many guys get incopasitated and there girl have to run to the cabinet for a candy bar and force them to eat it. Then slowly they comeback around. Scary shit.

[Igifuno]

Not sure about your stats of experience, but it can be very very dangerous. I've had opportunities to get it and I've always steered clear due to the potential long term and/or permanent effects.

We have an IGF/HGH/Insulin forum you should visit to read up on it. Anything you put in your body you should be knowledgable on.. but take that advice for slin and multiply it by 100X. Little to no room for error.

[gixxerboy1]

listen to everyone else. You dont take insulin because you can get it.
First there are all different types of insulin so who knows what kind you are getting.
There is alot more to it then eating carbs after. Also if you dont know what you are doing slin can make you gain a lot of fat.
So let me sum it up. It can be dangerous and kill you if you dont know what you are doing and it will make you a fat ass if you dont know what you are doing.

[bigswoll]

Yes insulin is cheapest way to gain but comes at alot of risk like Gixxer said there are many types of insulin my buddy almost went into a coma from it. The idiot measured insulin like u wud growth and took 30 units at once. He ate a box of honeycombs whole package of Oreos and was slamming kool aid. He then realized something was wrong told his friend to bring to hospital on the way he fell asleep they has to put on stretcher and bring into ER luckily they leveled him out but if he was by himself he probably wud of died. I personally have had good results with insulin humalog a quick acting insulin but only when running gh. I do get fat if i run without gh. I've stopped using period cause the gains are ok but not good enough to keep messing with insulin

[hillbill78]

would 4iu's be a good starting point streight after training to see how it goes ?????

[Capebuffalo]

Sure how's your insurance? He's not listening.

[0tolerance]

Ive used Novalog, which im pretty sure is very similar to humalog.
As the others have said, it can be a very dangerous compound; only if the correct precautions arent taken.

You can take it before a work out or after a workout, if you are going to take insulin i would start with taking it post work out.
Make sure you are 100% on the version of insulin you are taking, so you know its active time and its peak times.

Ive taken it before and post work out.
But i will describe my post work out procedure for you.

Immediately after i finished my work out, i would put together my shaker which had my BCAA, Glutamine, Taurine, creatine with about 70grams of dextrose. the reason i use 70 grams of dextrose is because im using 10iu of insulin and the rule of thumb is use between 7-10 grams of dextrose per 1iu, you can infact dial it down a little when you are comfortable using it and have more experience.
So i'd use the 10iu of insulin novalog and then immediately consume my shake, i would then sit around at the gym for about 30 minutes as my insulin kicked in at around 15 minutes and i just waited the extra to make sure i wasnt feeling hypo. then around 90 minutes later i would consume a meal.

Make sure if you do take it, that you have a backup plan for if something goes wrong.
I had diabetic glucose lollies that i got from my friend who gave me the insulin, i had a training partner that would sit around and chat with me after id had my shake.
If i felt slightly shaky or off i would consume a couple glucose lollies until i felt 100% and then id drive home, it is a decent drive from my house to gym so my car console also had these lollies in them.

I knew people from gym that had used insulin, gotten in their car to drive home and had an accident because they passed out behind the wheel.
Its not dangerous if you have done your research and you know what your doing and theres a back up plan for every possible out come.

One day i remember the symptoms of hypo started coming on and i had my car full of my cousins and my other ; i simply said to them i had to pull over to grab a drink because my mouth was drive(while i quietly consumed my glucose lollies) i grabbed a bottle of water, quickly ate a handful of glucose tablets and was on my way back to wherever we were going.
Theres other times were some one had taken the packet of glucose out of my car and i almost passed out driving home, that was definitely a scary trip for me, i ended up crawling out of my car and into the kitchen and laying their drinking a powerade.

in the end, you may just be better off with a diet change but its up to you.

[0tolerance]

and never go to sleep while your insulin is active.

[songdog]

would 4iu's be a good starting point streight after training to see how it goes ?????

Wat the hell bro cant you read? Didnt you just hear how dangerous it was?Sorry bro but there are no shortcuts.

[gixxerboy1]

would 4iu's be a good starting point streight after training to see how it goes ?????

4iu's of what kind of insulin?

[auswest]

Wow taking your body to the next level has really got to mean alot to you then some, to use this shit. Those are some scary story's.

[Philly82]

I wouldn't **** with it and I am not someone who shys away from injecting stuff.

[Dukkit]

Points to remember

And these come from PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE.

So pay attention.

-Take your carb drink THEN SHOOT the Slin. Its safer and works the same.

-Buy a blood glucose meter at walmart for 15 bucks. Use it to see where your normal levels are (upon waking, 1 and 2 hours after eating)

-Keep track of bg after slin injects with the meter.

-You can shoot IM or Sub Q but IM kicks in quicker. So DEFINITELY take your shake BEFORE IM injections if you do them.

-Dont go over 6ius. Unless you are running GH, there is no need.

-Always keep glucose tabs or soda or juice with you at all times when using it. (Ive had to use it in emergencies a few times)

-Be sure to know what Slin you are using. They peak and last different times. Can peak at 15 mins or 2 hours. So you need to know. Its VERY VERY important.

-Make your slin fit your diet... not your diet fit your slin. What I mean is... if you run slin post workout and you usually take 50 g of carbs with your post workout then only take 4-5 ius of slin. Dont go eatin 100g of carbs cuz you want to take 10ius of slin. You will get bloated and fat.

And the most important point Im going to make is... Be smart. Dont be a retard.

[Razor]

Points to remember

And these come from PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE.

So pay attention.

-Take your carb drink THEN SHOOT the Slin. Its safer and works the same.

-Buy a blood glucose meter at walmart for 15 bucks. Use it to see where your normal levels are (upon waking, 1 and 2 hours after eating)

-Keep track of bg after slin injects with the meter.

-You can shoot IM or Sub Q but IM kicks in quicker. So DEFINITELY take your shake BEFORE IM injections if you do them.

-Dont go over 6ius. Unless you are running GH, there is no need.

-Always keep glucose tabs or soda or juice with you at all times when using it. (Ive had to use it in emergencies a few times)

-Be sure to know what Slin you are using. They peak and last different times. Can peak at 15 mins or 2 hours. So you need to know. Its VERY VERY important.

-Make your slin fit your diet... not your diet fit your slin. What I mean is... if you run slin post workout and you usually take 50 g of carbs with your post workout then only take 4-5 ius of slin. Dont go eatin 100g of carbs cuz you want to take 10ius of slin. You will get bloated and fat.

And the most important point Im going to make is... Be smart. Dont be a retard.

Great slin post, I am running slin and doing all this that you speak of.

OP I researches slin for like a year b4 I started using it, I would suggest you do the same.

[auswest]

Curious to know. To the guys using slin do you compete or recreational, not that it makes a difference as everyone's goals are different, just curious

[Dukkit]

Great slin post, I am running slin and doing all this that you speak of.

OP I researches slin for like a year b4 I started using it, I would suggest you do the same.

Glad we are on the same page man! How you liking the slin run?

Curious to know. To the guys using slin do you compete or recreational, not that it makes a difference as everyone's goals are different, just curious

Dont compete. Just like to be sexy. Dont use slin anymore though. Im too lazy to keep up with carbs, timing, etc.

[bigswoll]

OP sounds like your gonna run regardless for your sake read the post workout criteria get urself a glucose meter( there cheap) and glucose tabs and always have on hand. Start lower 2 c how your tolerance is u shouldn't feel anything if u do it right. If you start needing sugar then Ur doing 2 much. And make ppl aware around u what your doing jus incase something happens, and DOnt fall asleep after. I recommend humalog which spikes for about an hour most INS from pharmacy that are without script are a 3-4 hr spike that's 2 long. Be careful and keep is posted on how it's going

[Razor]

OP go check out my post in the insulin forum, copy what I do, but dont run 10iu run 4-5. I am on gh so I can run higher doses.

[Razor]

Curious to know. To the guys using slin do you compete or recreational, not that it makes a difference as everyone's goals are different, just curious

Im using slin with gh in replace of steroids at this point in my life. Otherwise I would not be using it.

[JonnyConcrete]

No hijack, but why eating 100g of carbs after a slin shot make you fat and 50g wouldn't?

No hate, I'm just genuinely curious.

[DAAS]

I have never heard of IM insulin injection. And I have taken over 500mL of insulin.

[Dukkit]

No hijack, but why eating 100g of carbs after a slin shot make you fat and 50g wouldn't?

No hate, I'm just genuinely curious.

Im not saying 100g of carbs will make you fat. Im saying that if your daily calorie intake is normally 3000. Then you figure oh i want to take 10ius of slin right away, so I gotta take 100g of carbs, instead of your normal 50g of carbs in your PWO. Then your calorie intake jumps and most likely not all those carbs get shuttled from the slin so whats leftover gets stored as fat. SLin is a storage hormone. What doesnt go to muscle, goes to fat storage basically.

So basically... make your slin fit your diet. Not shoot a shit load of slin thinking itll get you huge fast. Then your diet goes out the window.

I have never heard of IM insulin injection. And I have taking over 500mL of insulin.

I know lots of people who prefer it IM. It seems to peak quicker, and clear quicker. Plus it seems to keep bloat off a tad more. Just from looking in the mirror.

[Razor]

I know lots of people who prefer it IM. It seems to peak quicker, and clear quicker. Plus it seems to keep bloat off a tad more. Just from looking in the mirror.

Jackpot! Ill start this protcol today then, thanks dunkkits

[Dukkit]

Jackpot! Ill start this protcol today then, thanks dunkkits

Money in the bank man. lol

Some people find that it peaks right away (depending your slin type) but the second peak never really hits.

So be careful and mix in some slow carbs with your peak carbs.

I always used apple juice with oats and my bcaas or whey.

But whatever youre using.

Keep me posted on how you like it.

[gixxerboy1]

I have never heard of IM insulin injection. And I have taking over 500mL of insulin.

i told you the other day in a pm you can do im injections

[DAAS]

i told you the other day in a pm you can do im injections

Your reply had no content. I thought that was your way of saying you dont want to talk to me. lol

but yeah I got a message from you but it was emtpy

[Dukkit]

Your reply had no content. I thought that was your way of saying you dont want to talk to me. lol

but yeah I got a message from you but it was emtpy

hahah
Let me apologize for Gixxer. Sometimes he likes to type in invisible ink.

[DAAS]

I wonder how my longer acting levimer would react to IM.

very interesting

[DAAS]

hahah
Let me apologize for Gixxer. Sometimes he likes to type in invisible ink.

he has done that to you?

I was like uhh....

[gixxerboy1]

Your reply had no content. I thought that was your way of saying you dont want to talk to me. lol

but yeah I got a message from you but it was emtpy

lol, sorry, no thats not what i meant

[gixxerboy1]

hahah
Let me apologize for Gixxer. Sometimes he likes to type in invisible ink.

bite me

[DAAS]

lol, sorry, no thats not what i meant

would you mind resending it?

[Dukkit]

bite me

Ill bite you all day

[DAAS]

lol, sorry, no thats not what i meant

nvm i got that part actually, just your reply to my next message had no content