Reputable lab question

[zack67360]

On TRT and found a source that was cheaper than my RX, so went with it. I was doing Enanthate with good results, 0.25cc/day SQ. Upon advice from a friend, changed to Prop. The vial had crystals in it, tried it SQ with bad results; pain, large lump and inflammation. Went IM in the glut with it, same result. Backed off to eod, doing 0.5cc. I cannot sit without pain, laying on a bench at the gym is also very painful. Then discovered the gear is manufactured in China, so thought maybe I should go with a more reputable pharmaceutical company. I plan on going back to the Enanthate and trashing the other vials of prop I bought $210 down the tubes, live and learn.

zack

[< <Samson> >]

If I had a script I would only run Pharma grade. Fvck cost, I rather have quality. . . . Just me though.

[Times Roman]

Mate,
you can't ask for a source on the board. Please edit your post, ok?
Cheers!
---Roman

[Noles12]

If your prop has crystals then it has crashed.

You need to heat the vial to put the hormone back into solution. Do not inject it in a crystallized form

[ghettoboyd]

If your prop has crystals then it has crashed.

You need to heat the vial to put the hormone back into solution. Do not inject it in a crystallized form

exactly bro, your gear is fine you just need to heat it back into solution...you should have known this though bro that you shouldent inject crashed gear....

[zack67360]

Thanks, post edited. I was not looking for a source, I just phrased my question poorly. Was just wondering which foriegn pharmaceutical companies make quality products.
I tried running the vial under hot tap water as suggested but this was not totally effective. How does one effectively heat a crashed vial?

[< <Samson> >]

How does one effectively heat a crashed vial?

Put it in a pan of hot ass water on the stove.

[ghettoboyd]

i have one of those flat glass top stoves so i just set it on the burner on like 2 or 3 and slowly heat it till the crystals dissolve...you may have to do it everytime though as it could keep crystalizing over and over...make shure to put a pin in it as a vent so the vial dosent blow up also...

[zack67360]

No glass top range, gas burners here. So hot ass water it'll be and will give it another try.

[Noles12]

Water just under boiling. Let it sit in there below the and every so often swirl the vial to help with mixing

[Juice Authority]

I'm confused. If you're on TRT doesn't your insurance cover it? Mine does.

[Juice Authority]

If your prop has crystals then it has crashed.

You need to heat the vial to put the hormone back into solution. Do not inject it in a crystallized form

You do realize that crashed gear can recrystallize in the body right? Crashed gear goes straight in the trash. I don't mess with that. Not worth it.

[gixxerboy1]

I'm confused. If you're on TRT doesn't your insurance cover it? Mine does.

my insurance doesnt cover it

[Juice Authority]

my insurance doesnt cover it

And it's prescribed by your PCP and not an anti-aging doc? Strange.

[gixxerboy1]

And it's prescribed by your PCP and not an anti-aging doc? Strange.

yes, blue cross/ blue shield
i had them in two different states with different policies and wasnt covered either time

[Juice Authority]

yes, blue cross/ blue shield
i had them in two different states with different policies and wasnt covered either time

I have Anthem blue cross. No issues. I had Aetna before and had no issues. What was the reason they won't cover it? Testosterone deficiency is now a widely recognized issue by the AMA.

[gixxerboy1]

I have Anthem blue cross. No issues. I had Aetna before and had no issues. What was the reason they won't cover it? Testosterone deficiency is now a widely recognized issue by the AMA.

i never looked into the reason, they just denied it. Maybe ill have to dig deeper,

[Noles12]

You do realize that crashed gear can recrystallize in the body right? Crashed gear goes straight in the trash. I don't mess with that. Not worth it.

Yes it can but often it has crashed due to exposure to low temperature. I always let the vial sit for a few days after heating to see if it crashes again.

I had 10 vials show up crashed during the winter months one year. I heated each one and not one of them crashed again and I had no PIP whatsoever.

Now then if the solution crashes again in appropriate temperatures I would recommend tossing it

[Juice Authority]

i never looked into the reason, they just denied it. Maybe ill have to dig deeper,

Just ask your doctor to fill out their form, it's a short one, explaining the medical necessity. The good news is once approved, you're good for life.

[cb714]

I'm confused. If you're on TRT doesn't your insurance cover it? Mine does.

Mine does not cover it either. They only cover androgel, which is worthless.

[Dpyle]

My script was covered by insurance but I buy out of pocket to avoid the over pricing these pharmacies charge to insurance. I know 4 1ml vials cost more than the 10ml vial paying out of pocket. Nit really sure what they charge the insurance co. But I know my copay for 4 syringes was gonna be 12 bucks so there's no telling what they were gonna charge the insurance for those alone.

I think they use the insured to cover the cost of the uninsured in a lot of cases. Example being my diabetic grandmother. She could buy a box of insulin syringes for 60 bucks out of pocket while the pharma billed her Medicare 500 for the same box.

[gixxerboy1]

My script was covered by insurance but I buy out of pocket to avoid the over pricing these pharmacies charge to insurance. I know 4 1ml vials cost more than the 10ml vial paying out of pocket. Nit really sure what they charge the insurance co. But I know my copay for 4 syringes was gonna be 12 bucks so there's no telling what they were gonna charge the insurance for those alone.

I think they use the insured to cover the cost of the uninsured in a lot of cases. Example being my diabetic grandmother. She could buy a box of insulin syringes for 60 bucks out of pocket while the pharma billed her Medicare 500 for the same box.

damn pins are expensive where you live. I pay $12-$20 for 100 of slin pins and .25 each for a 3cc pin at the pharmacy

[cb714]

damn pins are expensive where you live. I pay $12-$20 for 100 of slin pins and .25 each for a 3cc pin at the pharmacy

Look on Amazon. I got a box of 100 for like $12

[Dpyle]

Oh as long as I pay cash and don't use insurance I get my pins for a quarter a piece. Shows you how they run it up on the Ins. Companies. I bought my last round through ar when I picked up some Ldex though. Gonna switch pharmacies for the test though. Walgreens tries to pull the ol we can't get the 10ml vial anymore and I refuse to pay 1.5 times the price for less than half the test.