Dbol myths

[Angel of death]

Look I'm not trying to start a fight, this is all my opinion but it seems like the same people who love putting dbol in their cycles are so quick to say "don't do dbol only its just water weight."

I absolutely agree that dbol is best used as a kickstart to a cycle with a testosterone base. However I've seen individuals who train hard, eat right, and have put in the time do a 6 week 20mg dbol cycle (or something similar) as a first cycle and keep enough of the gains for it to be well worth it. An anabolic/androgen that powerful that increases protein synthesis quite so dramatically will CERTAINLY give you gains in 6 weeks time. Is it the best cycle to run? Hell no. Is it worth it? Yeah, why not.

[Atomini]

Why bother with crap like dbol when you can use test? Especially for a first cycle, considering testosterone is far more natural to the body than dbol.

[bert003]

DBol only is a NO NO... Besides, every individual reacts differently to steroids. I have a friend of mine who kept around 70% of the gains with just 15mg dianabol ed. However most people I know who tried a dbol only cycle, lost practically all their gains... Maybe it was also due to bad diet but I am not sure...

It seems you want more mass. How old are you if I may ask? Are you dieting properly?

[Flacco]

Dbol will give you strength gains. With proper diet, you can increase muscle mass. But It won't be much after all the water falls off you. I can't imagine getting nearly enough gains from a 20mg a day, 6 week dbol only cycle, to be "well worth it."

15mg of dbol a day really isn't enough to see serious gains from the dbol itself. I imagine any gains you would get on 15mgs of dbol a day would be real gains from eating and training. The dbol probably didn't do much at all. Even at that low dose, you're still shutting down your nuts and should do a proper PCT. Risk/Reward does not pan out at all IMO.

[bert003]

15mg of dbol a day really isn't enough to see serious gains from the dbol itself. I imagine any gains you would get on 15mgs of dbol a day would be real gains from eating and training. The dbol probably didn't do much at all. Even at that low dose, you're still shutting down your nuts and should do a proper PCT. Risk/Reward does not pan out at all IMO.

agreed 100%...

[sharmabrah]

I know of a few people doing dianabol only cycles to varying degrees of success. Some have kept a fair amount of their gains but this was primarily down to diet and supplement intake. The others just wanted quick gains without caring about their diets at all. Surely dianabol at a dose of, say, 30MG everyday is not too bad if the correct liver and PCT supplements are used?

I also know of a few people who have done dianabol for weeks one to three, and then Anavar for weeks four to eight with some good success. Anyone know of any people who have had dianabol at the start for a kickstart to Anavar? Surely this could work well because with the strength gains from dianabol, Anavar would most likely give you some great lean body mass if your diet is in order?

[bert003]

Surely dianabol at a dose of, say, 30G everyday is not too bad if the correct liver and PCT supplements are used?

I think the above is a typo right? 30mg you mean...

[Angel of death]

DBol only is a NO NO... Besides, every individual reacts differently to steroids. I have a friend of mine who kept around 70% of the gains with just 15mg dianabol ed. However most people I know who tried a dbol only cycle, lost practically all their gains... Maybe it was also due to bad diet but I am not sure...

It seems you want more mass. How old are you if I may ask? Are you dieting properly?

What did I just post that it makes it seem that I want more mass? My cycling days are over man. This has nothing to do with me.

[Angel of death]

And like I said 6 weeks 20mgs won't make you huge and it's certainly not an ideal cycle. But I'd be willing to bet as a first cycle that could serve many people well.

[bert003]

What did I just post that it makes it seem that I want more mass? My cycling days are over man. This has nothing to do with me.

Sorry mate. Just thought you asked cause you wanted to try something yourself...

[Angel of death]

No problem my bad if I just came off like a dick. Just wanted to stir up some good discussion with this thread.

[< <Samson> >]

I been looking into liquid injectable d-bol for my next cycle. It's so cheap and sounds like it would be good. But, I am still leaning towards NPP & test or just test.


I started a thread about the liquid D-Bol, but didn't get too much of a response.

[Angel of death]

why would you prefer to inject it?

[< <Samson> >]

why would you prefer to inject it?

I have this certain attachment to my liver. I am trying my best to stay away from orals. . . Why run d-bol if you are gonna do oral? Just drop some a-bombs, those seem a bit more effective.

[Ashop]

Look I'm not trying to start a fight, this is all my opinion but it seems like the same people who love putting dbol in their cycles are so quick to say "don't do dbol only its just water weight."

I absolutely agree that dbol is best used as a kickstart to a cycle with a testosterone base. However I've seen individuals who train hard, eat right, and have put in the time do a 6 week 20mg dbol cycle (or something similar) as a first cycle and keep enough of the gains for it to be well worth it. An anabolic/androgen that powerful that increases protein synthesis quite so dramatically will CERTAINLY give you gains in 6 weeks time. Is it the best cycle to run? Hell no. Is it worth it? Yeah, why not.

You are right,,back years ago there were plenty guys blowing up on DBOL only cycles. Just over the years
we have found better more controlled ways of doing things. No one can ever deny how powerful DBOL is.

[Juced_porkchop]

Look I'm not trying to start a fight, this is all my opinion but it seems like the same people who love putting dbol in their cycles are so quick to say "don't do dbol only its just water weight."

I absolutely agree that dbol is best used as a kickstart to a cycle with a testosterone base. However I've seen individuals who train hard, eat right, and have put in the time do a 6 week 20mg dbol cycle (or something similar) as a first cycle and keep enough of the gains for it to be well worth it. An anabolic/androgen that powerful that increases protein synthesis quite so dramatically will CERTAINLY give you gains in 6 weeks time. Is it the best cycle to run? Hell no. Is it worth it? Yeah, why not.

whynot?
because on top of Dbol being alto fo water fill with some growth, you test levles shut down with its use like with other steorid. so now you lost the anabolic effect of your test and your body doesnt have test that is used for MANY functions in the body and not just muscle building.
oral only cycles are CRAP, Dbol only cycles are CRAP, PERIOD!

why are you going to do something MORE unhealthy to your body, for less gains and more sides?
its just half assing the use of steroids if you ask me.

[Juced_porkchop]

I have this certain attachment to my liver. I am trying my best to stay away from orals. . . Why run d-bol if you are gonna do oral? Just drop some a-bombs, those seem a bit more effective.

This also!
shit 1 maybe 2 SMALL runs of orals I would do a year and ill run 1g test no prob. but even I know orals are the worst for body and even worse when your not even bothering to replace the test your losing from their use (teste or cyp injections for eg.)
you not going to gain much in 4-8weeks (of real muscle) and i dont care WHAT steroid your using inject or not! you ARE NOT going to grow a 15lb steak on you in 8 weeks (go look at a 3lb steak and see ho big it is lol), the scale will go up and boat is NOT just in th ebelly, when we say bloat we mean the muscles too, dbol bloat is in the muscles also, so oyu might hink they are gains, some thing "bloat" is liek when you eat too much crap food, not exacly the same.. and to run them for months is stupid and un safe in my op, so WHY use it alone?
I know why.... you dont want to pin? then stay away man, or atleast get your self a bathtube full of androgel and use it daily with your orals. lol

[Juced_porkchop]

I been looking into liquid injectable d-bol for my next cycle. It's so cheap and sounds like it would be good. But, I am still leaning towards NPP & test or just test.


I started a thread about the liquid D-Bol, but didn't get too much of a response.

why? its still liver toxic just take it orally and an extra 2mg if you are worried about "not getting it all"

[Angel of death]

This also!
shit 1 maybe 2 SMALL runs of orals I would do a year and ill run 1g test no prob. but even I know orals are the worst for body and even worse when your not even bothering to replace the test your losing from their use (teste or cyp injections for eg.)
you not going to gain much in 4-8weeks (of real muscle) and i dont care WHAT steroid your using inject or not! you ARE NOT going to grow a 15lb steak on you in 8 weeks (go look at a 3lb steak and see ho big it is lol), the scale will go up and boat is NOT just in th ebelly, when we say bloat we mean the muscles too, dbol bloat is in the muscles also, so oyu might hink they are gains, some thing "bloat" is liek when you eat too much crap food, not exacly the same.. and to run them for months is stupid and un safe in my op, so WHY use it alone?
I know why.... you dont want to pin? then stay away man, or atleast get your self a bathtube full of androgel and use it daily with your orals. lol

If you're aiming this at me I've pinned many times before and have no interest in using any steroids in the near future. I just think dbol can be used by itself in a safe and effective way. Not everyone wants to be shut down for 12 weeks and dbol acts sort of like testosterone in that it usually makes people hornier

[Times Roman]

All I can say is that on this rollercoaster we have of gains and losses, Dbol sure makes for one helluva bumpy ride. And as the ride takes us up (the gain slope), we get a little manic, and as it pulls us down (the loss slope), we get a little depressed.

I'm more of a slow steady gain type of bloke.

just saying

[Juced_porkchop]

If you're aiming this at me I've pinned many times before and have no interest in using any steroids in the near future. I just think dbol can be used by itself in a safe and effective way. Not everyone wants to be shut down for 12 weeks and dbol acts sort of like testosterone in that it usually makes people hornier

But Dbol wont be used in your body for "all" the same functions as testosterone. I think it is healthy to have it in.
and even though I dont like short cycles (i think they are a wast) but I would even say using testprop for 6-8 weeks with the dbol still.
But I am sorry I thought you where thinking of only using orals and startign with dbol, like alot of new guys seem to do.
So sorry about that. But I still dont think it is a good idea.

[calstate23]

Look I'm not trying to start a fight, this is all my opinion but it seems like the same people who love putting dbol in their cycles are so quick to say "don't do dbol only its just water weight."

I absolutely agree that dbol is best used as a kickstart to a cycle with a testosterone base. However I've seen individuals who train hard, eat right, and have put in the time do a 6 week 20mg dbol cycle (or something similar) as a first cycle and keep enough of the gains for it to be well worth it. An anabolic/androgen that powerful that increases protein synthesis quite so dramatically will CERTAINLY give you gains in 6 weeks time. Is it the best cycle to run? Hell no. Is it worth it? Yeah, why not.

Yes, that's true, I'm one of those people. I love putting dbol in my cycle but I will be quick to say it's just water weight (When using it alone)....As a kickstart I personally love it. Good size and strength gains. But since I'm usually cycling 10-14 weeks water retention is going to pretty much be a given so it's not that big of a deal. And also you would be taking it with a compound that will give quality gains in the long run.

But taking it by itself I think is pointless...Great, you gained some size and strength and now you are going to lose it real fast with nothing to fall back on...That's why it's pointless...

[Juced_porkchop]

All I can say is that on this rollercoaster we have of gains and losses, Dbol sure makes for one helluva bumpy ride. And as the ride takes us up (the gain slope), we get a little manic, and as it pulls us down (the loss slope), we get a little depressed.

I'm more of a slow steady gain type of bloke.

just saying

Totally agree and SAME HERE!
I mena i still like a small bit of dbol here n there maybe at the start of a cycle, but never as a main part of it. Just rather have a cleaner look and gain.