got some 25 ml bottles that are REAL BAD!! BD

[Dobie-BOY]

Bad bd

[Bonaparte]

You can mention the brand, just not the source. I'm assuming this is British Dragon?

[lntense]

^my thoughts

[Dobie-BOY]

Ya, the BD are horrible. I never have problems with acne, but they made me break out bad!

[swm1972]

Uhh. Ever consider acne is a common side effect of anabolic steroids and having these type of sides might actually be an indication you are getting what you paid for?

[Bigjerdog]

what he said

[Dobie-BOY]

Uhh. Ever consider acne is a common side effect of anabolic steroids and having these type of sides might actually be an indication you are getting what you paid for?

Ya, that might be possible if I didn't have as much experience as I have had with this stuff. I have more experience and education with this stuff and working out than you and all your little friends combined. I am trying to keep someone else from getting f'd. Except you. You can f yourself.

[JAMIE07652]

I'm thinking that bd gear gives ya roid rage too ?

[FONZY007]

Ya, that might be possible if I didn't have as much experience as I have had with this stuff. I have more experience and education with this stuff and working out than you and all your little friends combined. I am trying to keep someone else from getting f'd. Except you. You can f yourself.

U mad brah? Lol, all seriousness though, test normally makes me break out bad also

[measuretwicecutonce]

usually acne is from dirty gear. unless ur using high doses. like 750mg + test w/o an AI. test doesn't actually cause acne. estrogen does and DHT does.

[measuretwicecutonce]

that is an intense as picture intense lol

[stpete]

Gear, whether it's test or anything else affects people differently. Personally, test never made me break out so much. And i also never experienced "virgin muscle" pain. But then again, back in January, i spent the whole month in CCU under a medically induced coma. Doctors told my wife they were amazed at how my body absorbed the amount of drugs it took to get me straight.

Thanks for the heads up on the BD.

[austinite]

Gear, whether it's test or anything else affects people differently. Personally, test never made me break out so much. And i also never experienced "virgin muscle" pain. But then again, back in January, i spent the whole month in CCU under a medically induced coma. Doctors told my wife they were amazed at how my body absorbed the amount of drugs it took to get me straight.

Thanks for the heads up on the BD.

damn. Well, seeing as your AVI is from March, looks like you recovered very well. Glad you're ok, bro.

[stpete]

Yeah, i was asleep for 26 days. Was advised to do nothing but relax for 30-60days as my body would take time to heal. I was in the gym 3 days later. Had a shitload of test and tren and told my wife it will never happen again. Used 100mgs tren ED, and same for prop. Ate like a madman and i was back to normal.

Thanks for the kind words.

[< <Samson> >]

That is fvcking crazy. . . . I dunno if I would juice again after being MIA for almost a month. . . Word.

[FONZY007]

usually acne is from dirty gear. unless ur using high doses. like 750mg + test w/o an AI. test doesn't actually cause acne. estrogen does and DHT does.

I got acne from pharma grade gear! When i got
On trt I broke out like no other had like 200-300 pimples on my back, shoulders, neck and face

[swm1972]

Ya, that might be possible if I didn't have as much experience as I have had with this stuff. I have more experience and education with this stuff and working out than you and all your little friends combined. I am trying to keep someone else from getting f'd. Except you. You can f yourself.

This is a flame free board. Read the rules.

I have some of the best sources in the game and haven't bought BD or QV from that Chinese dude since the early days of being in this game. Odd with all your knowledge and experience you haven't secured better sources and are still sourcing gear through these channels. Hmmm.


I am on hrt (was on before steroid use) and get acne occasionally from Watson testosterone straight from the cvs rx. You don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about if you believe testosterone only causes acne if it is dirty gear. That's some Idiotic bro science bullshit someone with a better imagination then yourself dreamed up and you took as gospel because you are gullible.

In puberty when a boys body is producing higher levels of testosterone and the end result is acne, has his body produced dirty testosterone?

I could eat alphabet soup and shit a better argument then you are capable of generating.

[swm1972]

usually acne is from dirty gear. unless ur using high doses. like 750mg + test w/o an AI. test doesn't actually cause acne. estrogen does and DHT does.

But where do the elevated levels of estrogen and dht in a male come from? Testosterone conversion. So it really is the root of the problem. I disagree with the dirty gear assertion. The human body produces testosterone that causes acne in boys during puberty. Is the human body producing dirty gear?

[swm1972]

I got acne from pharma grade gear! When i got
On trt I broke out like no other had like 200-300 pimples on my back, shoulders, neck and face

This. I have Iranian cidotestons, schering testoviron, and Watson cyp from cvs.....

All are the same and cause the same sides in me. When I raise my dose from hrt levels to cycle levels I see a couple of occasional pimples on the chest, shoulders, and rarely face. I've used my Watson for cycles before and it made no difference. Even the best human grade gear will still cause acne.

[spywizard]

Dobie-boy has crazy experience, and the outbreak could be that you are getting older too broski, or a change in diet... although i've experienced the same thing and just chock it up to part of the game..

[swm1972]

Dobie-boy has crazy experience, and the outbreak could be that you are getting older too broski, or a change in diet... although i've experienced the same thing and just chock it up to part of the game..

He might have vast experience but he doesn't consider others opinions without immediately taking offense. I have been in this game for years myself. I started at 205-210lbs and cycled up to 260-265lbs. I'm content with hrt and where I've landed having just turn 40 years old, baby on the way, and fantastic employment with the US Dept of defense. I might only be 5'10" and 220-225lbs today, but I've been where many want be but few achieve. This game is about discipline and knowledge. If you are lacking in one or the other you'll fall short. Lack in both and you'll never get off the ground.

I believe my post history illustrates I'm someone with a strong understanding of this lifestyle. I try to give good advise even when my opinions aren't the general consensus and are unpopular. When challenged I can back up what I say with scientific studies more often then not. I devoted the better part of a decade into absorbing every detail of knowledge I could about the mechanics behind the why, how, what of anabolic enhancement. To be called out in such a manner by someone that buys BD gear and then bitches about the quality strikes me as ridiculous. It's not like this gear hasn't been hit and miss throughout its history. Why would anyone expect that to change all of a sudden?

That said, my second cycle (and only experience with bd) was BD gear. Ran testosterone and deca and saw wonderful gains. Doesn't mean I'd buy it today given all that has been said about that label over the past several years.

[Bonaparte]

Acne is caused by the bacteria Propionibacterium acnes, which will multiply rapidly (as it is anaerobic, but can survive in oxygen) in pores that become clogged or otherwise produce too much oil.
Almost any hormonal fluctuation or increase can cause an increase in sebum (body oil) production. Unless you're injecting gear tainted with Propionibacterium acnes, an increase in acne has nothing to do with how clean or dirty your gear is (that last part was a joke, as it would cause a local abscess, not acne).

[swm1972]

Good info and thanks bon.

[tboney]

Ya, that might be possible if I didn't have as much experience as I have had with this stuff. I have more experience and education with this stuff and working out than you and all your little friends combined. I am trying to keep someone else from getting f'd. Except you. You can f yourself.

What is your prob man? SWM's point is good! That is a common side of test use!!

[John Andrew]

stpete, sorry to hear about your problem. I do find it hard to think it was just steroid induced. Sounds like a mjor medical problem. anyway glad its over and you are back to 100% Good Luck. John

[warmouth]

Gear, whether it's test or anything else affects people differently. Personally, test never made me break out so much. And i also never experienced "virgin muscle" pain. But then again, back in January, i spent the whole month in CCU under a medically induced coma. Doctors told my wife they were amazed at how my body absorbed the amount of drugs it took to get me straight.

Thanks for the heads up on the BD.

Holy Canoli! I didnt understand StPete, but were you sayingyou were in an induced coma because of AAS? Not prying, and if you werent referring to the coma being AAS related, it isnt my business and I dont need to know. I just was curious. Sorry to hear about it either way.

[JohnnyVegas]

usually acne is from dirty gear. unless ur using high doses. like 750mg + test w/o an AI. test doesn't actually cause acne. estrogen does and DHT does.

Ha! CVS pharmacy must be selling me dirty gear because my TRT dose causes my to get bad acne on my upper arms and back.

[Pac Man]

Well. This thread is full of allot of Broscience bs.