Fat Burners OTHER than Clen

[warmouth]

Hey guys. I really didnt want to make a post, but I figured it woud be good to get multiple input so I can further research. I tried the clen once a week ago and decided I would not do it again. Heart rate was WAY to high. SinceI have blood pressure issues anyways, I figured clen just wasnt worth the risk to reward for me. It scared me a good deal. And also, I am trying to lose fat through good old fashioned exercise and diet, I am having a bit of trouble though with the lower abdomen. Just wanting something mild to run a few weeks then off. I was curious about albuterol and wondered if it had he same sides that clen does as far as the heart rate is concerned. If ephederine was attainable, I wouldnt have any question regarding this. I have dabbled with the fat burners from nutrition stores, but to me they are more less energy drinks in a pill form. It there any OTC or fat burners you guys can recommend that would be fairly safe on sides and easier on my heart rate? Like I said, ephederine always had good effects on me, and my heart rate slowed after a few hours of use. Clen stayed for about 24 hours. Thanks in advance!

[Times Roman]

don't like clen.

I haven't tried T3 yet.

[Bonaparte]

You should be able to buy Bronkaid or Primatene at any drugstore. They both contain ephedrine and guafenesin.

[warmouth]

You should be able to buy Bronkaid or Primatene at any drugstore. They both contain ephedrine and guafenesin.

Is it one of those behind the counter meds? And not to sound foolish, but is it cough syrup? And is it still as safe to take as basic ephederine tabs? Thanks Bonaparte!

[warmouth]

don't like clen.

I haven't tried T3 yet.

I hated clenand I never see myself using it again! It didnt do anything but give me irregular heart beats andheart rate. Scared the crap out of me. I have some T3 a buddy gave me, but I dontknow how old it is or anything. Messing around with my thyroid also is a bit nerve racking. I used HyperShred from GNC, and even though it was ok and gave me some energy, it just wasnt enough. It says it is a thermogenic, but I just dont quite believe it to be. It felt like a 5 Hour Energy shot, but thats about it.

[tballz]

I now prefer albuterol over clen. The sides are less harsh and the half life is only like 4 hours compared to 36 hours for clen.

[Bonaparte]

Is it one of those behind the counter meds? And not to sound foolish, but is it cough syrup? And is it still as safe to take as basic ephederine tabs? Thanks Bonaparte!

Yeah, behind the counter. They limit how much you can buy per week (since it can be used to make meth).
No, they're tablets.
And yes, guafenisin shouldn't bother you.

[Ashop]

Hey guys. I really didnt want to make a post, but I figured it woud be good to get multiple input so I can further research. I tried the clen once a week ago and decided I would not do it again. Heart rate was WAY to high. SinceI have blood pressure issues anyways, I figured clen just wasnt worth the risk to reward for me. It scared me a good deal. And also, I am trying to lose fat through good old fashioned exercise and diet, I am having a bit of trouble though with the lower abdomen. Just wanting something mild to run a few weeks then off. I was curious about albuterol and wondered if it had he same sides that clen does as far as the heart rate is concerned. If ephederine was attainable, I wouldnt have any question regarding this. I have dabbled with the fat burners from nutrition stores, but to me they are more less energy drinks in a pill form. It there any OTC or fat burners you guys can recommend that would be fairly safe on sides and easier on my heart rate? Like I said, ephederine always had good effects on me, and my heart rate slowed after a few hours of use. Clen stayed for about 24 hours. Thanks in advance!

The only other fat burner I can mention that works is an ECA stack.
HGH is very effective too but best reserved for the advanced athlete.

[warmouth]

I got Bronkaid! I cant believe it! I have missed the good old ephederine. Now for some advice here on how to use it best for fat loss.
1. Should I take 1 tablet every 6 hours? (What is the normal dose for fat loss)
2. Shoud I stack it a caffine pill and an asprin?
3. Should I knock off use before dinner to help sleep? (The anavar is killing me with insomnia as is. BRUTAL! Even with Ambien and Unisom)
4. Do you think I will have to force feed in order to maintain my caloric intake?
5. Lastly. Does Ephederine protect muscle against catabolism, like clen, when sufficient calories arent consumed?

Thanks a ton guys for your help. And Bonaparte, thank you again for recommending Bronkaid. I know you told me about it once, but I though that inmy state that it was a banned substance. Anyone know how much can be purchased a week?

[warmouth]

The only other fat burner I can mention that works is an ECA stack.
HGH is very effective too but best reserved for the advanced athlete.

I wish I could afford the GH. I dont know anything about the actual prices, but from what Ive been told, itis astronomical! I am awaiting Atominis log of the GW-051617 stuff.

[austinite]

The elliptical.

[warmouth]

The elliptical.

Ha ha! What? You trying to say Iam lazy? I have been doing some cardio, but its just too hard.........lol.

[austinite]

Ha ha! What? You trying to say Iam lazy? I have been doing some cardio, but its just too hard.........lol.

lol. It gets easier.

[warmouth]

I just love ephederine, and am glad to have been able to find it. Now, I think I am going to go "cook up" some preworkout powder! ha ha. I do need to find out some answers though.....

[austinite]

Just stack eca bro.

[warmouth]

Is once a day normally efficient enough? And is it usually dosed at 1 eph, 1 caffine(I got 200mgs), and 1 asprin?

[measuretwicecutonce]

i drink green tea religiously all day at work. 5am-4pm. like 8-12cups a day. any kind of caffeine and antioxidant will help as far as non-drugs. don't forget to do cardio, lower carbs up fats lower salts up water.

[fit2bOld]

I vote for the eliptical

[warmouth]

I vote for the eliptical

Dang you fit2bOld!!! NowI am feeling like a lazy bum with you AND austinite on my back! ha ha. I really wanted the ephederine for the way it makes me feel more than anything else. I was told by a few members to give clen a try and did and absolutely hated it. But this ECA stack is something I want to do more for the feeling and let the fat loss come as a secondary side. And I am by no means fat. I am pretty lean. I would like to just blow off this teeny tiny little bump about at my navel. I only have a few more weeks before the long sleeves come out, so I got to get fit quick! lol. Thank fot the input, no matter how bad it made me feel.