Tren and cardio truth?

[adamjames]

Ill be dabbling in tren on my next cycle ( 2nd cycle ) and im looking to avoid the tren cough and cardio decline as much as i can because i play football and do a fair bit of cardio( and i have mild asthma), from what ive read it would seem tren enenthate is a better choice to avoid the cough and asthma due to it building up slower in the system, but then on the flip side others say tren acetate is better because if coughing/cardio becomes a problem you can get it out your system quicker.

so what one should i go for and what dose should i start at, ill be running it alongside a low test dose and primo

: )

[austinite]

Tren cough is a myth. Any AAS injected improperly could cause a cough. Generally, shin pumps occur that could hinder cardio efforts at higher speeds from Tren.

It's true that Tren Ace would be a better choice that it's longer ester when starting with tren. If sides become too harsh it will clear in a few days.

Low doses of primo are a complete waste of time and money.

What are your full stats, AJ?

[ghettoboyd]

eather way if you have asthma i would think you wouldent be a very good candidate for tren of any kind...it will most definitly effect your cardio....

[Lunk1]

If this is second cycle I might suggest adding 1 compound at a time. If your already adding primo maybe just leave it at that. I like to see ppl try a deca cycle to see how they react to 19nors before tren. I do believe all this is falling on deaf ears though.

In that case let me say first that Tren cough is a myth, it can be caused by any AAS including test. It maybe a bit more ponounced with tren and therefore the name.
Also, effecting cardio is individual and dose specific. Meaning that some ppl are effected when it comes to cardio more than otheres and that for some (me) it depends on how much I run.

For the rest of the tren info I suggest you self educated and read Atominis sticky on Tren at the top!

[adamjames]

If its a myth then thats great news, come to think of it i did have a slight tingling cough after pinning test a couple of times

current stats
weight - 207 ibs
B.f - 14 percent
height - 6 ft, give or take an inch lol
age - 25

[adamjames]

eather way if you have asthma i would think you wouldent be a very good candidate for tren of any kind...it will most definitly effect your cardio....

yeah i hear you but ive debated this for a while and i cant help but jump on the tren bandwagon and at least give it a try once lol

[songdog]

Why mess with Tren if you are playing football and have asthma? Doesnt sound like a good choice Bro.Your coach wont be impressed by your lack of wind.

[adamjames]

i just came across this big claim in another forum

(Yeah trenbolone has interesting effects on strength and mass. However, the is poison. Don't be surprised if your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - NEVER recovers from it. And if it does, trenbolone will change your hormones forever.)

sort of thing that puts me of big time

[adamjames]

Why mess with Tren if you are playing football and have asthma? Doesnt sound like a good choice Bro.Your coach wont be impressed by your lack of wind.

i just feel i have to try it once to see if i agree with it or not, ive spent countless hours reading about it and the crazy body composition changes it can induce, im after a hard lean look next cycle i get bad water retention so the idea was to go very low test with a moderate tren dose, lol funny u say that because my coach always says im too nice so tren might help in that respect

[Lunk1]

I dont have to try chewing on razor blades to know it's not good for me This sort of mindset is nothing short of childish!

[njs]

I got done with my tren over a week ago and im still dying when im running or even having sex and i sweat like crazy when it working so be careful it is really strong.

[adamjames]

I dont have to try chewing on razor blades to know it's not good for me This sort of mindset is nothing short of childish!

hmm not sure the analogy is appropriate. Do you take steroids? do you take risks in life? im sure you do, would you call that childish? well id call that living, limiting the risks is a factor i agree but chewing razor blades is way off point

[adamjames]

I got done with my tren over a week ago and im still dying when im running or even having sex and i sweat like crazy when it working so be careful it is really strong.

how were your fitness levels before you started mate?

[njs]

It was ok im trying to bulk up so haven't been doing much cardio but i can tell the difference my work out time slowed but i could lift a house also the sweating from just the littlest bit of running was crazy. Does anyone know how long it takes for the sides to completely go away. It has gotten alot better over the week but still a little bit there.

[adamjames]

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[Natureboy71]

I have taken tren many times and I can't honestly say if it is because of the fast weight gain or almost a placebo effect that I think my cardio is hampered. Or a combination of both. Most people find a "sweet spot" on how much they can take between the sides and the effectiveness. I personally liked about 75mg EOD.

But as another poster said unless your using it for powerlifting or bodybuilding why even bother? There are many other compounds better suited to what you want to do.

[songdog]

Do wat you want Bro but I promise you will be draggin ass. Remember you were warned

[Sworder]

OP you play football as in soccer? or American football?? What position do you play?

[adamjames]

OP you play football as in soccer? or American football?? What position do you play?

football as in soccer, i play centre midfield usually

[Sworder]

I typically don't laugh at people's goals and their program, but if you are going to run tren playing midfielder in soccer I would LOL.

Any steroid will impede your performance, EQ would be good as it doesn't make muscles grow. Soccer is not a steroid sport. It's more technical than physical, how to position yourself, where to run, ball technique, shooting technique et cetera.. You should know this.

[adamjames]

I typically don't laugh at people's goals and their program, but if you are going to run tren playing midfielder in soccer I would LOL.

Any steroid will impede your performance, EQ would be good as it doesn't make muscles grow. Soccer is not a steroid sport. It's more technical than physical, how to position yourself, where to run, ball technique, shooting technique et cetera.. You should know this.

Lets get 1 thing straight you seem to have misunderstood, im not cycling to improve my football, your not talking to christiano ronaldo or lionel messi here mate i am a sunday league player who has played for 15 years as a hobby and i dont get paid a penny for it.

And your wrong about football being more technical than physical, its equal on both counts but here in England if anything its more physical. trust me!!!

Theres a lot of myths and broscience in the world of steroid forums as you well know and sometimes you cant take things at face value and you have to delve deeper to find the real truth, for example some people say tren completely messes up there cardio to the point of collapse and some say it does not effect there cardio at all..........im just trying to find out the facts and the safest way to go about my cycle bro like everyone else

[OnTheSauce]

Tren makes me winded after going up one flight of stairs.

[lovbyts]

I dont have to try chewing on razor blades to know it's not good for me This sort of mindset is nothing short of childish!

I was going to use heroin as an example but he gets the idea.

Tren makes me winded after going up one flight of stairs.

I get winded going DOWN a flight of stairs. lol