Another newbie idiot cycle!

[Brick]

So I run into a kid I've known for about 10 years at the gym the other day. **** he bleeew up. So bloated, must be 30-40 lbs heavier then when I saw him 6 months ago.

I run into him again in the change room the next day and I call him out immediately

'so bro, drol, dbol, what is it?'

nah man just sus250

oh okay, some water retention there eh? that's why I thought an oral, glad to see you're not running an oral only cycle

nope just sus250, im tapering off right now

tapering?

ya lowering my dose

(i shake my head, but I figure I will learn of all the bad advice he was given first)

yada yada yada

i learn that:

He is running 375mg e3d (890mg a week) SUS250
No AI
he is on nolvadex on cycle because it makes you 'retain 70% less water than normal'

PCT is nolva, arimidex and HCG

when I learned he was on that high of a dose I asked him who the FUUUUUCK said to run that high

he tells me he was told by a doctor in Vancouver that you can take 'as much test as you want' and that this was a good starting dose


After I learned all this I told him we need to seriously sit down, he recommends we go grab a bunch of beers and appys at a pub (right after I told him how hard I have been dieting and that diet is everything)


Do I bother trying to save him?

hes also 21 or 22

[Gaspaco]

Some people need to learn the hard way Brick.

He will find out how important diet is after loosing all his gains.

WTH is his doctor? Doctor death?

[cj111]

Is he your friend?
If you turn a blind eye on somebody ****ing up their body then shame on you.... what if it killed him? Then you'de probably feel like shit for the rest of your life knowing you coulda done something....
That's just what I would do, but hey, do whatever you think is right

[Brick]

Is he your friend?
If you turn a blind eye on somebody ****ing up their body then shame on you.... what if it killed him? Then you'de probably feel like shit for the rest of your life knowing you coulda done something....
That's just what I would do, but hey, do whatever you think is right

I meant it more as what if he doesn't listen? Did I do my part or am I not going far enough

[wesh]

Its not gonna kill him but i would sit down with him if i were you. Let him eat the appys and drink the beer while you explain to him. I just did it with a 19 yr old at my gym. He is taking 750 mg test/wk and 50mg dbol/day. No ai. No pct. didnt even know what estrogen was

[panntastic]

Its not gonna kill him but i would sit down with him if i were you. Let him eat the appys and drink the beer while you explain to him. I just did it with a 19 yr old at my gym. He is taking 750 mg test/wk and 50mg dbol/day. No ai. No pct. didnt even know what estrogen was

Let me guess he was being advised by a "good friend" it pains me to read these story's

[bdos]

Its not gonna kill him but i would sit down with him if i were you. Let him eat the appys and drink the beer while you explain to him. I just did it with a 19 yr old at my gym. He is taking 750 mg test/wk and 50mg dbol/day. No ai. No pct. didnt even know what estrogen was

Classic!

[bigsiv]

I meant it more as what if he doesn't listen? Did I do my part or am I not going far enough

I'd say keep going brick he might come round to our way of cycling even though it would be better for him to stop being so young. At least show him how to do it safely

[fit2bOld]

You need to talk with him one on one outside the gym. Don't slam the guy for what he's doing but help him right the ship and educate him on AI and PCT and why they are important. Then work one the whole diet thing. After he is off and loses all the gains he may want to listen and become more educated by joining up and doing research.
Thats the right thing to do brick

[blacktoppete]

Brick lead him in the right direction. If he takes your advice great if not at least you tried.

[jimmyinkedup]

Brick lead him in the right direction. If he takes your advice great if not at least you tried.

This is all you can do.
Its the same thing we try to do here.

[Brick]

I'll get ahold of him and try

[iSwanson]

I think you should definitely try and help him, especially if you know him personally. You could be the difference in him having kids or shooting blanks. He not trying to be ignorant, he just been misinformed. Shit if a doc told me something I'm inclined to believe them more than disagree with them. Before I joined this site I figured most docs would have some knowledge in AAS, but I've learned that most do not, not even endocrinologists.

After this if he doesn't listen then HE IS IGNORANT

[Brick]

He said he didn't believe a word I said and will do what his doctor said

[iSwanson]

He said he didn't believe a word I said and will do what his doctor said

Well when someone is that dumb I guess it's a good thing he won't be able to have children.

[cj111]

I think he's ****ing with you, how could a doctor prescribe that much test legally? Whos his doctor, doctor seus?

[Armykid93]

Some people need to learn the hard way Brick.

He will find out how important diet is after loosing all his gains.

WTH is his doctor? Doctor death?

There probably wasn't a doctor. He just doesn't want to look like an idiot because he has no idea what he's talking about.