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    First cycle, check please.

    Traditional new cycle of 12 weeks test e.
    26 yrs old
    6'7" 240
    5 years training
    ~8% bf

    Plan to run: week 1-12
    test-e 600 mg/week (for the sake of using it all up) 300mg 2x week
    hcg 250iu 2x week wk 1-13.5
    Exemestane 10mg ed

    week 14.5 PCT
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    I have everything on hand including pins, but I only have 2 hcg 5000iu vials. I will be getting two more 2000 iu vials.

    How long should I keep the hcg reconstituted before tossing it?

    I am also running a ghrp-2/mod grf protocol that i am about 6 weeks into so I plan to see some nice gains.
    Last edited by sixfootseven; 03-20-2013 at 12:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    Traditional new cycle of 12 weeks test e.
    26 yrs old
    6'7" 240
    5 years training
    ~8% bf

    Plan to run: week 1-12
    test-e 600 mg/week (for the sake of using it all up) 300mg 2x week
    hcg 250iu 2x week
    Exemestane 10mg ed

    week 14.5 PCT
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    I have everything on hand including pins, but I only have 2 hcg 5000iu vials. I will be getting two more 2000 iu vials.

    How long should I keep the hcg reconstituted before tossing it?

    I am also running a ghrp-2/mod grf protocol that i am about 6 weeks into so I plan to see some nice gains.
    looks good to me i dont keep hcg after 60 day keep in refrigerator

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    use hcg up until 1 week before pct

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    Solid cycle!

    I would go for EOD with your aromasin.

    Good luck
    Last edited by Gaspaco; 03-19-2013 at 03:02 PM.

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    I agree with the eod on the aromasin.

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    Will do aromasin 12.5 mg eod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    I agree with the eod on the aromasin.
    Reason behind this???

    Standard protocol is 10-12.5mg ed?

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    ^^^^ Actually half that. And yes, ED would be preferred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    Traditional new cycle of 12 weeks test e.
    26 yrs old
    6'7" 240
    5 years training
    ~8% bf

    Plan to run: week 1-12
    test-e 600 mg/week (for the sake of using it all up) 300mg 2x week
    hcg 250iu 2x week
    Exemestane 10mg ed

    week 14.5 PCT
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    I have everything on hand including pins, but I only have 2 hcg 5000iu vials. I will be getting two more 2000 iu vials.

    How long should I keep the hcg reconstituted before tossing it?

    I am also running a ghrp-2/mod grf protocol that i am about 6 weeks into so I plan to see some nice gains.
    Why would you need so many HCG vials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provita View Post
    Why would you need so many HCG vials?
    Bc it doesn't have great shelf life from what I've heard.

    Also, someone please straighten me out on the stane. 12.5 mg eod not the preffered way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provita View Post
    Reason behind this???

    Standard protocol is 10-12.5mg ed?
    I like to start eod this way you stand less chance of taking too much.And messing up your estro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    I like to start eod this way you stand less chance of taking too much.And messing up your estro.
    good to know.

    plan to get bw before cycle and after pct. Should I do it again half way through? when test is done?

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    How much Test do you have? I'm guessing 3 10ml vials? Just a heads up on the 600mg a week. I did the same cycle but 500mg EW and I got about 9 shots out of each vial. Doing the math on that you probably won't get 12 full weeks. Even if you do the bubble technique you still lose about .1ml per pin. Just a thought. So you don't get close to the end and be like WTF!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjtravjr View Post
    How much Test do you have? I'm guessing 3 10ml vials? Just a heads up on the 600mg a week. I did the same cycle but 500mg EW and I got about 9 shots out of each vial. Doing the math on that you probably won't get 12 full weeks. Even if you do the bubble technique you still lose about .1ml per pin. Just a thought. So you don't get close to the end and be like WTF!?
    Yeah thats what I have, so maybe I will do 500/wk

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    Traditional new cycle of 12 weeks test e.
    26 yrs old
    6'7" 240
    5 years training
    ~8% bf

    Plan to run: week 1-12
    test-e 600 mg/week (for the sake of using it all up) 300mg 2x week
    hcg 250iu 2x week
    Exemestane 10mg ed

    week 14.5 PCT
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    I have everything on hand including pins, but I only have 2 hcg 5000iu vials. I will be getting two more 2000 iu vials.

    How long should I keep the hcg reconstituted before tossing it?

    I am also running a ghrp-2/mod grf protocol that i am about 6 weeks into so I plan to see some nice gains.
    Cycle looks good to me.
    HCG is about 30 days. I don't toss mine, I just double the dosage after that until it's used up. (It loses potency, rather than just going completely bad all at once)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBJT200 View Post
    Cycle looks good to me.
    HCG is about 30 days. I don't toss mine, I just double the dosage after that until it's used up. (It loses potency, rather than just going completely bad all at once)
    Ok, I may just get the 2000iu vials, or maybe 2x1000iu vials.

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    No. Run your exemestane ED.
    Running EoD will screw your estrogen levels up worse than too high of a dosage ED due to its half life.
    Your estrogen levels will have a large fluctuation between doses if you use the EOD protocol.

    If the concern is that 10mg is too high of a dose, you should start at say, 5mg ED.

    Arimidex however is fine EoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBJT200 View Post
    No. Run your exemestane ED.
    Running EoD will screw your estrogen levels up worse than too high of a dosage ED due to its half life.
    Your estrogen levels will have a large fluctuation between doses if you use the EOD protocol.

    If the concern is that 10mg is too high of a dose, you should start at say, 5mg ED.

    Arimidex however is fine EoD.
    I'm hearing mixed opinions on this. Can some vets chime in on this please if you're passing through?

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    Just a quick, hey BB......cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    I'm hearing mixed opinions on this. Can some vets chime in on this please if you're passing through?
    "It has a terminal half life of 9 hours in MEN, so taking it once per day will build up blood plasma levels to a very effective level."

    Quote from data supplied by MickeyKnox
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UUlqePoazTo

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    Hey CM. Hope the surgery is healing up well!

    Provita has it.

    If you dose it every other day, you're going to have an effective estrogen lowering dosage one day, and not enough the next day
    Or, you'll have overkill, then just enough, then overkill, then just enough.

    Finding a dose for ED dosing will give you consistent levels of AI.

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    Solid cycle.

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    I'll do 8-10 mg eod. How will I know if its too much or too little?

    Just got my gear today, gonna make sure I am squared away on everything before I start it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBJT200 View Post
    Cycle looks good to me.
    HCG is about 30 days. I don't toss mine, I just double the dosage after that until it's used up. (It loses potency, rather than just going completely bad all at once)
    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    Ok, I may just get the 2000iu vials, or maybe 2x1000iu vials.
    Freeze it. It's what i do - works perfect.

    Freezing hCG

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UJKMCGfX_fs

    Quote Originally Posted by Provita View Post
    "It has a terminal half life of 9 hours in MEN, so taking it once per day will build up blood plasma levels to a very effective level."

    Quote from data supplied by MickeyKnox
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UUlqePoazTo
    Bingo!

    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    I'll do 8-10 mg eod. How will I know if its too much or too little?

    Just got my gear today, gonna make sure I am squared away on everything before I start it.
    What for the early signs of rising E2 levels. (acne, bloating, faint erections, sensitive mood..ect) A lot of this comes with experience, but you can keep an eye on what you DO know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Freeze it. It's what i do - works perfect.

    Freezing hCG

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UJKMCGfX_fs



    Bingo!



    What for the early signs of rising E2 levels. (acne, bloating, faint erections, sensitive mood..ect) A lot of this comes with experience, but you can keep an eye on what you DO know.
    Big thanks. Excited for this cycle. Got some more research to, shooting for April 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven View Post
    Big thanks. Excited for this cycle. Got some more research to, shooting for April 1st
    Roger that. Good luck man.

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