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    Why not add an ester to GH?

    Why would they not put an ester on Gh so it has a longer half life, less injections, longer acting.. If this already exists please inform me? Something like Growth Hormone Propionate or Enhanthate???

    Thanks for your time.

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    Because concentrated doses are needed fast.

    Time release via an ester isn't justifiable same as hcg and peptides

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    So why wouldnt you use higher dose of gh that has an ester so theres a constant concentration of gh 24/7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frappier
    So why wouldnt you use higher dose of gh that has an ester so theres a constant concentration of gh 24/7
    It probably wouldn't hold in an oil solution for a start and why would you want to jab something intra muscular that many times when twice a day subQ is perfect?
    You would surely run out of sites of doing short estered cycle along with it.
    And also price
    It would cost loads more as you would have to shoot more depending on what ester is used

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    For one, you can't add an ester (fatty acid chain) to a peptide hormone. Totally different structure than a cholesterol-derived sex hormone.
    There are modifications possible for peptides (DAC complex, LR, etc), but that would defeat the purpose of GH.
    GH release (and more importantly, IGF-1) is supposed to be inconsistent. Chronically elevated IGF-1 is what causes most of the possible side effects (acromegaly, intestinal growth, etc).

    So quit being a pansy and just pin your GH daily.

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    Israelis have been working on HGH with a rather long biological life, which would require once a week injections. They have already gone through multiple phases of this research and their government approved product should be on the market in a few years, available via prescription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic View Post

    It probably wouldn't hold in an oil solution for a start and why would you want to jab something intra muscular that many times when twice a day subQ is perfect?
    You would surely run out of sites of doing short estered cycle along with it.
    And also price
    It would cost loads more as you would have to shoot more depending on what ester is used
    I hate sub q. I prefer IM. Sub q always hurts for some reason and bruises easily for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Gotta love the Jews!!! Although you know it will be 200 times the cost of regular lol I kid I kid
    Wow you never cease to amaze me
    We don't tolerate that sort of stuff here

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    I said I was kidding, why are you trying so hard to get me in trouble? Little snitch

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    Yet you tolerate yourself making personal attacks against me? Hypocrite. Why are you always starting shit? Your lifes that pathetic and boring? Go to the gym bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Go to the gym bro
    You were looking in the mirror when you said that, right?
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    I'm not the one trolling and sweating on people's every single post so no. I go to the gym plenty. I'll give you a new picture in 2 weeks ive lost alot of fat since stopping dbol so you can shut up with the fat attacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    I'm not the one trolling and sweating on people's every single post so no. I go to the gym plenty. I'll give you a new picture in 2 weeks ive lost alot of fat since stopping dbol so you can shut up with the fat attacks
    I will gladly shut up if you do.

    And d'bol causes water retention not fat retention.
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    I was referring to pantyfasric..

    I know what my diet is you saw my original picture from 3 months ago you don't just magically get fat over three weeks the day you start taking depo I know not all of the fat in my picture was water weight but I obviously a very good deal of it was because I stop taking it 3 days ago and already look quite leaner

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    I know who you were referring to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Your lifes that pathetic and boring? Go to the gym bro
    I would love to meet you and just shake your hand
    Listen I'm not attacking you any more than you were attacking Jewish people and saying they drive prices up.
    What a way to racially stereotype a religion
    Can see you make friends really easy

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    Like you never joke or say something offensive based on the fact it's a joke and humorous. I'm fukn jewish. It's not like I was making light of the concentration camps. It's a stupid stereotype and that's why I said it that's what made it humorous. Anyways you lay off me I'll lay off you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Like you never joke or say something offensive based on the fact it's a joke and humorous. I'm fukn jewish. It's not like I was making light of the concentration camps. It's a stupid stereotype and that's why I said it that's what made it humorous. Anyways you lay off me I'll lay off you.
    I've got no problem with that
    I really don't tolerate anything racial or any type of hatred at all its my biggest gripe

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    Lol. It seems like every time I open a thread that has multiple posts from snowblower, something stupid is going on... Just an observation so don't get your panties in a bunch

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    That's cool Panntastic, it's one of mine too. I actually use to be in ARA a militant anti racism fascism group. I still like to use humor at times tho to just mock the stupidity of the stereotype in the first place

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    Meh, I thought it was funny. I don't think he sincerely meant any hatred or bigotry towards jews. I really don't like blowjobjoe, but let's cut him a little bit of slack and not look for posts to get onto him about. However, joe your responses after the comment were uncalled for. A simple "I didn't mean it offensive, my bad" would have sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    That's cool Panntastic, it's one of mine too. I actually use to be in ARA a militant anti racism fascism group. I still like to use humor at times tho to just mock the stupidity of the stereotype in the first place
    Lol. It's like using the N word and saying. "No guys, it's totally cool. I know a black guy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post

    Lol. It's like using the N word and saying. "No guys, it's totally cool. I know a black guy"
    Personally I think its very racist to give some ppl the ability to say a word but not others. U think I can't say a word because of the color of my skin? Now that's racist. Ill say what I want.

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    Ya dive, that's exactly what it's like lol

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    I agree, it's just like hate crimes. It just promotes racism as it shows that were so different that we need different laws. Ill put it this way. The last 4 jobs I've had
    Post office
    Landscaper
    Max sec prison drug counselor
    Different landscaping company

    I've heard everything there is to say from every perspective. I'm the only white guy I've worked with in years lol. You really hear interesting things from different cultures. Personally, I'd never use the word because it makes ME uncomfortable. But the younger generations are so desensitized to it that the don't even care. Some think its weird I won't use racial slurs in front of hem lol. It's only the older folk that make a huge deal out of it, further promoting the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Ya dive, that's exactly what it's like lol
    Yes, it kind of is thanks for agreeing! Although I do greatly appreciate you usual mocking undertone that has clearly earned you SO many friends around here... It's not how you perceive your comments to be that matters, it's how everyone else views them that does

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    Holy Christ! I turned my back for a minute and look what happened to this thread?

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    Welcome back Turkish. I wish you could have met my friend when he was in Turkey so you could have slapped some sense into him lol. He lives /lived in Istanbul

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Welcome back Turkish. I wish you could have met my friend when he was in Turkey so you could have slapped some sense into him lol. He lives /lived in Istanbul
    You should have let me know ahead of time, so that I could have met him and help him out with what he needed.

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    I was just wondering why you wouldn't add an ester.. However it makes sense why you wouldn't add one

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