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Putting together a cycle for a tight end college football player. GH is out of the question. Looking to enhance size and conditioning. I know test prop is a must but not sure about what else should be included. Lets say there won't be drug testing for at least 5 months.
Stats are 6'4", 245lbs.
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I'm pretty sure tren ace kills endurance and eq takes too long to work so those are also out of the question.
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I was in football for years never had to use juice for endurance if you want to get bigger just start test e only and the problem is maybe there's no testing now but it will happen quick when you start to blow up think about that befor you cycle.Originally Posted by Fibraz
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Test prop is not a must..
We need your complete stats...
Age
body Fat percentage
Training experience
Cycle history in detail
Finally, once you have this info, please propose a full cycle for critique. Even if it's a mess, we need to know what you're considering and how you think it should be administered, this will help us get an idea of your level of research.
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I've been in your position and I'm suprised your coaches haven't given you test with no ester. Best way to avoid drug tests
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21. Bodyfat I'd say is 15 or 16%. T1 diabetic. Weightlifting for about 7 years. Cycle history, I've done a couple oral cycles years ago first was var and tbol, second was oral tren, third was dbol and drol. Probably shouldn't have but I did take estro and or proges blockers. First inject cycle I did was almost a year ago which was tren ace, test prop, and masteron.
I wanted to hear from people who might have experience with juicing and playing football, so I was open to suggestions.
I'm not gonna talk to the coaches about steroids.
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It's in your best interest to wait. Check the sticky threads please. You could do a lot of long term damage if you cycle this early.
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Diddnt come here for people to preach to me about that. Ive cycled before, I'm just looking for a cycle critique.
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We didn't invite you to tell us what to preach. That was my cycle critique for you.
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Sus and Winn
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Might go with sus but not sure about the winny. I'm gonna be pushing my limits and I don't want it ****ing with my joints.
Edit: Actually sounds like it might work. Was thinking 750 sus and 50 winny. Should anything else be added as icing on the cake or does this sound good?
Last edited by Fibraz; 06-20-2013 at 08:41 PM.
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The joint pain are one of the sides... Don't mean you'll get it.. I don't and I'm pretty sure everybody doesn't get it.. Why you think it's highly recommended For athletes..
Trust me, talk about endurance, you'll see.. I'm triple setting free weights and super setting abs with and without weights.. You ain't getting tired!!!! This shit is made for speed and agility combine training...
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Why not do a fatty test prop cycle?
200mg EoD + HCG throughout the cycle + an AI along with some proper PCT...
would be a great 10 week cycle and you should be good to go before the season starts.
Look at the stickied threads about PCT.
Read, read, read.
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Ok so sus and winny. What about adding npp?
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so we are now giving steroid advice to 21 year olds?
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Talk about jerks around here, better yet roid rage.. Learn the sport of football before you chime in here... Understand what it takes to get in the" NFL"... Especially if he's been playing since the age of 5... He's already in college.. This is all he knows if he's been playing since 5yrs old... He's gonna do what he has to do to get to that level.. If he's been play since he's was 5, it's in his bloodline to play and do no matter what it takes to get in... Save the bllshit about giving advice to a fcking 21yrs old here.. Ass wipe..
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Well, your time is limited. You'll be gone soon so you can spend as much time as you want at other boards. I'm sure you'll enjoy all the teenagers over there advising you. typical immature child.
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Get a life loser.. You been on here one year and have 15k post!!!! You need a life bad.. You gotta be ugly as fcuk like that avi you have because you juicing and can't get laid.. 15k post in less then a year!!!! What a loser!!!!
You actually think football players aren't juicing???? And most of them are under the age of 25 jerk... He's asking for help and you turn him away!!!! There football players asswipe.. What part of football players are you not getting!!!!!!
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Well, my advice for you is to focus on school. You can't even do math. lol.
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Please read the rules...
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Mate,
You need to work on your people skills, since apparently you seem to lack any.
Now edit out all the flaming from your posts, and then take a breath....
....It's a long way to the cellar.
---Roman
aka "JOB"
This should end well I assume
I played football through college...no juice. Was lack of steroids why I didn't continue? Nope! Lack of skill and athleticism was!
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At least your honest about lack of skills and athleticism.. I know a few guys that were highly skilled and extremely athleticism, but lack size!!! Since they were lacking size, so their playing times were lacking aswell.. No playing time , no recognition... They gonn a do what it takes!!!This should end well I assume
I played football through college...no juice. Was lack of steroids why I didn't continue? Nope! Lack of skill and athleticism was!
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Who? Like Danny Amendola or Wes Welker? No size whatsoever but they're in the league and Welker is a freaking beast. I realize many positions require more size than others but I just wanted to throw that out there. (I'm a ttu alum)
You have a piss poor attitude and I'm fairly certain you'll be gone soon. I'm sure bb.com misses you.
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And dude, your nose is way up those two ass!!!!!
Wes welker... 5'8" 190lbs @ 10%bf.... And you say that's not size... Lmfao
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Touche'......people dont realize its a different breed at that evel...one game against Walter Jones taught me I wasn't that caliber.....This should end well I assume
I played football through college...no juice. Was lack of steroids why I didn't continue? Nope! Lack of skill and athleticism was!
aka "JOB"
This is dumb...it's the same BS argument as the fkn liars that try to convince ppl they plan to compete at a major level of BB. The percentage of ppl that go pro compared to those that play the sport is sooo astronomically low because it isn't juice that makes the difference. If that were the determining factor there would be 325 teams in the league.
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Education is important big biceps are importanter.
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lol, you really shouldn't butt heads with docd, you couldn't fathom reaching his level.
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So much anger and rudeness, Naughty step I think.....
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Why do new members always cry when they get sound advice and then say other boards are better because they told me what i wanted to hear?
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New member...Ha, That's funny considering I joined 3 years before you did.
I guess the sheep have come out and started with the generic posts.
Last edited by Fibraz; 06-21-2013 at 10:02 PM.
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My level is no better than anyone else's brother, we're all humans in the end. Except maybe some of us have open minds while others do not.
^^^to answer your question, I believe it's due to built in biases and expectancies. Society today is a give me society, earning something is too much work, it's much easier to demand it and expect to receive it. When someone comes into a situation/thread already knowing what they want to hear, they tend to unconsciously reject all opposing viewpoints for whatever trivial minutiae while grossly accepting the recommendations they do want to hear, even if common sense, basic logic, and the many combined years of experience of other members is telling them that they're wrong. I could put forth 50studies about how AAS use is linked to long-term health consequences when abused during developmental periods. Would that change his mind? Of course not, he'd seek out the SINGLE study that said there were no consequences, ignoring the fact that wrong methodology was used and faulty design applied which consequently led to improper conclusions. Does this make a difference? You bet it doesn't bc it's what he wants to hear do he'll defend it to his death bed. Now the great thing (maybe not so great) about ppl like this, is they have a very high likelihood of coming back years later saying how they were wrong, AAS f**ked up their life, they can't have kids, and make thread after thread about "poor me" sob stories and some will even begin to promote the SAME EXACT ADVICE THEY DENIED as youths. Which, with the way society seems to be going now, will only perpetuate more such cycles. We are witnessing classical Darwinism at its finest my kind sir, sit back, butter up that popcorn, and get ready to enjoy one hell of a ride!
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Why didnt you leave 3yrs ago and save us all the trouble then?
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There you go again assuming things. I never said I want to do something because everyone else is doing it. I'm doing it because I want to, it's MY choice. You people really sound like a broken record. As I said before I'm out. Why would I take advice from a website that has BUYSTERIODS.COM plastered on it anyway. Ill leave you all with one of my favorite quotes, which is pretty relevant in this situation.You see that's the funny thing about logic, you don't have to expressly say things to make a parallel jump in logic. You said, and I quote, "a lot of the players I know are on juice and GH". This is the basis of your justification for using AAS despite your age, that MANY PEOPLE DO IT. Now if you're able to follow along with me do so, if not I'll slow it down for you: MANY PPL ARE MURDERERS AND WIFE BEATERS. When you use the same logic/justification you attempted to use to get on AAS to this scenario it allows you to become a murderer and wife beater without fear of reprisal bc, again using your logic here, MANY PPL DO IT. Is that worded more clearly for you to follow along this time?
Good luck with that "other board". The ones that aren't wise enough to realize how big of a factor age plays in this game are the same ones who will give anecdotal evidence and recommendations based off pure fantasy with no sound science behind it and will be the ones complaining about how AAS ruined their lives in 15-20yrs. Have a great day buddy and remember Austinite's recommendations to you when you decide to cycle. Hope you at least go through it without the gyno
“Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.”
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Check your reading comprehension buddy, no where in my post does it say you're doing it because everyone else is doing it.p, nor does it assume anything. The fact is you're right, you're doing it bc you want to do it. It is YOUR choice. But you are JUSTIFYING your choice, in others words giving a reason as to why its ok to make such a choice, based on what others are doing. They didn't make you do it but its ok for you to do it bc so many others are. There's quite a distinction there that you can't grasp. Which is EXACTLY THE SAME justification I used in my example, can I be any more clearer now, without reverting to middle school teaching techniques?
If you studied marketing and business management, you'd know that that site is a marketing campaign (legitimate or not is another story). A site like this doesn't bring in revenue from the warm hearts of its members and thus has to "advertise". That site happens to be a paid advertisement. That site helps make it possible for you to be here to get the advice you're so quick to write off bc it's not what you want to hear.
That quote is by Steve Jobs and applies to something completely different. Steve Jobs never advocated the use of illegal performance enhancing drugs nor short cuts that would PROVE TO BE detrimental. You're disgracing his legacy by applying it to something as harebrained as this. If you want to correctly apply his quote to this situation it would go something like this:
"Your time is limited so don't waste it living someone else's life"
-don't worry about all the other players juicing, worry about how you're going to make yourself a better athlete than them
"Don't be trapped by dogma- which is living the results of other ppl's thinking"
-don't be trapped by the thought juicing is mandatory to making it in the league- that living out everyone else's thoughts.
"Don't let the noise of Others' opinions drown out your own inner voice"
-don't let ppl talk you out of doing what you app want to do with your life, you can be anything you set your mind to( this doesn't apply to AAS since that's not what you want to do, it's merely a shortcut for you to get there.
"Most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary"
-don't let anyone tell you you're dreams aren't reachable. Be courageous enough to follow your dreams. Everything else comes after that. You're already following your dream of trying to be a football player but being a football player and using AAS are not collectively exhaustive, there are plenty of other routes to go.
Stop disgracing the dead by twisting their words to suit your illogical and personal needs.
aka "JOB"
Fibraz...you are still lurking even though you said (twice) you're out, so.....get the fuk out. Be true to your word, sign the fuk off and pull a David Copperfield (the magician not the Dickens character) and disappear!
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Doc thanks for answering that question haha
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I can't believe this is still going on.. It's Friday night, we all on juice.. We should be horney as hell and looking for a young fine victim...
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My fine young victim has already been "victimized" too many times for one night and I'm afraid she'll cower in fear if I wake her up, again lol.
On a sad note that pic you had almost brought tears to my eyes. Not only do I find out we have Tebow now but Aaron Hernandez being arrested too?!?! Why do I feel SOOOOOOO ALONEEE!!! hopefully Belichick has answers that can bring us back to life for the season
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