CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 only cycle

[XxAndreaxX]

Hi, so I decided to cicle AAS once a year, during the whole summer, but when I’m off I don’t want to stay 100% natural.
So my idea was to try out peptides.
As far as I read, HGH is not a very good Idea, because it suppresses natural GH and its very expensive.
IGF-1 is also a bad idea, because its very expensive and the most out there is fake.
Insulin, is very dangerous, so I came across CJC 1295 and ghrp-6.
First thing, CJC without DAC, seems to be better than the DAC version, due GH pulses are better than constant production. The DAC version is usually 100mg once a day, the no-DAC version, how much is it?? 100mcg split in 3??? Or should I take more??
Should I do 5 days on and 2 off? And stay around 2000-3000 mcg x week?
At AR-R there’s only CJC 1295 DAC and CJC 1293, the 93 version is the same as the 1295 without DAC??
How much ghrp-6 should I add??
Should I take ancillaries?? (cabergoline, AI and so on)
I want to pin as less as possible, cause don’t want to spend more money in syringes then in actual hormones….

[Back In Black]

Aha, more magic compounds that you think will make up for a substandard diet.

Current stats?

[XxAndreaxX]

1,86 (6ft) and 82kg around 10%BF
gained some fat, but abs vascularity still there thou.
My diet is no longer in check, due I have a new GF, I eat outside very often, but I try to stay over kal, to gain a little fat and no loose muscle tissue.
In PCT there was virtually no water weight loss, I gained 4 kg in PCT. still same strenght, so my muscles are for real, did not gained very much, but what I gained, is lean muscle.
I want to waint a couple of months, and start again with a checked diet and peptides.

[Bert]

Ghrp is good for increasing appetite, and that's it, imo.

[XxAndreaxX]

as long as I understood, CJC loads HGH, and ghrp releases it, so the 2 should be used synergetically, for best results. Am I right??

[XxAndreaxX]

how many kg could one put on with such a cycle? (proper diet and workout)
is it much less efective than a steroid cycle??

[Capebuffalo]

10-15 lbs easy

[XxAndreaxX]

10-15 lbs, normally there shouldn't be any water retention right??

[Bert]

It would all be water retention.

[XxAndreaxX]

Hi,was reading so far, and seems the most effective peptide is IGF-1 LR3, and the AR-R one seems to be legit.
I’d give it a run, month on/ month off, 100mcg a day sub-q.
Now I heard that DES should be injected PWO directly into the muscle you’re training.
My question, do I have to do the same thing with LR3 or is it enough sub-q PWO???
And should I pin 5 days on and 2 off or 7/7 days??
Later when I’ll get used to it, maybe I’ll add some CJC and ghrp.
thanks

[austinite]

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[XxAndreaxX]

Austinite, is it you on that photo???
or your GF??

[AD]

Austinite, is it you on that photo???
or your GF??

it's his mum

[XxAndreaxX]

what do you think about my IGF-1 cycle? should I adjust something to get the best out of it??

[SEOINAGE]

I would replace the cjc with mod-grf(1-29). I take 66 mcg of mod with 132 mcg of ghrp2. I think it is best used for fat loss, so am before fasted cardio, or even before other training sessions given you haven't had anything to eat for the 2 hours. Some like to take it before bed. Even once a day can make a difference. I do one maybe two times a day. And then every 5-6 weeks or so I take a full week off. The stuff actually will help you to release growth hormone even when you don't take it, but those effects can diminish with time. My doctor had suggested one month on, one month off, but I feel like it's pretty effective the way I am using it, but I do go off occasionally for month or two.

You will get some water retention, and it can make you look more fat than you are, a lot of people report puffier looking midsections taking it. But that goes away when you discontinue.

[XxAndreaxX]

I would replace the cjc with mod-grf(1-29). I take 66 mcg of mod with 132 mcg of ghrp2. I think it is best used for fat loss, so am before fasted cardio, or even before other training sessions given you haven't had anything to eat for the 2 hours. Some like to take it before bed. Even once a day can make a difference. I do one maybe two times a day. And then every 5-6 weeks or so I take a full week off. The stuff actually will help you to release growth hormone even when you don't take it, but those effects can diminish with time. My doctor had suggested one month on, one month off, but I feel like it's pretty effective the way I am using it, but I do go off occasionally for month or two.

You will get some water retention, and it can make you look more fat than you are, a lot of people report puffier looking midsections taking it. But that goes away when you discontinue.

ok thanks for the advice! But I'm unshure if go with GH (mod + ghrp) or go straight to IGF-1. I heard IGF-1 is far more effective then any kind of HGH... anyways, IGF-1 is only 1 month on and 1 off.I could switch between both?

[XxAndreaxX]

Hi, so, the more I’m reading about peptides, the more I’m thinking about going to a secure ********** kit.
All this about producing your own GH at the end, there’s not that much review and research.
I’m searching for solid gains, I’m an ectomorph, and take a peptide for loosing fat and getting a little bit harder, I can do it naturally with a good diet, or with some clen, and its muuuch cheaper.
I know, gains even with Hyge are slow and show up in long time, but I need to put on muscle mass, without touching my test more than once a year.
Like I said, I’m something like 1,5 months off, ended cycle at 78kg, and now I’m at 81kg, these 3kg are obviously fat, I was very lean, but I’m happy, muscle is the same ATM, normally all my friends, loose 3-4 or more kgs just after cycle, and additionally put on fat.
Strenght is nearly the same, lost very little, and go on training with the same weights. My friends who also were on cycle (not the same as mine), lost very much on power, so I can say, I gained very little, but it was all lean gain.

But I want to go on gaining, and due my genetics, Its actually very hard to maintain gains and BF, so there’s no way to put on muscle naturally without increasing BF, and I think even increasing it.
I’m 10kg lean above my gen limit.
What would be the most effective alternative to steroids??? HGH? IGF-1? Insulin? GHRH?
Thanks!!!

[acaciastrain93x]

peptides are a waste of money. only thing worth it is real growth hormone and real igf, neither of which you can get. save your hard earned cash and invest in quality food.

[XxAndreaxX]

If you're from 93, what do you know about this stuff?? you're only 20 yo, you should stay faaaar away from this forum. Its for your own health, and btw, its my problem where to find gear...

[Capebuffalo]

I’m 10kg lean above my gen limit.
What would be the most effective alternative to steroids ??? HGH? IGF-1? Insulin ? GHRH?
Thanks!!!

It's called FOOD. Try it once and a while. Your funny.

[Back In Black]

I'm 10kg lean above my gen limit. What would be the most effective alternative to steroids ??? HGH? IGF-1? Insulin ? GHRH? Thanks!!! It's called FOOD. Try it once and a while. Your funny.

no, no, no. Andrea believes in magic, not food.

[ottomaddox]

All the chemicals in the world won't make up for a sub standard diet.

[XxAndreaxX]

If my diet would be bad, I'd loose all my gains (muscle/BF), so I think diet is ok
And, also, I posted up my diet, and many said its ok.
Why don't you want to help me??

[Capebuffalo]

If my diet would be bad, I'd loose all my gains (muscle/BF), so I think diet is ok
And, also, I posted up my diet, and many said its ok.
Why don't you want to help me??

Why don't you want to help yourself? That's the real question. Humm

[Back In Black]

I posted up my diet, and many said its ok.

On what website was this, can you post a link? Because you never even returned to your thread in the nutrition forum nobody could tell you either way.

Andrea, I think you should do what you want to do, you always do anyway. This is why people don't want to try and help you any more because you don't listen.

[acaciastrain93x]

If you're from 93, what do you know about this stuff?? you're only 20 yo, you should stay faaaar away from this forum. Its for your own health, and btw, its my problem where to find gear...

dude you posted you aren't able to maintain your gains you make from your cycles, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that your diet sucks and your just trying to spend money to look good instead of putting in the hard work.

[Capebuffalo]

On what website was this, can you post a link? Because you never even returned to your thread in the nutrition forum nobody could tell you either way.

Andrea, I think you should do what you want to do, you always do anyway. This is why people don't want to try and help you any more because you don't listen.

Black tell me who said this:

hi,
my last cycle resulted as a total mess, sust 500mg EW and tren 400mg EW, gained more than 7kg and got lean, but 2-3 weeks in PCT I lost more than the 7kg I gained!!!!
started cycle at 79,5kg and now I reached 78kg. maybe tren was underdosed and I retained very much, although I was on aromasin and caber. ok, now I'm much leaner, but that's too much weight drop IMO.
My diet is in check, I try to stay above 1,5gr x pound protein x day, medium carbs and low fats.
I mean, after my first test-tren cycle, I actually gained 3,5kg in PCT. but I was very high on kal.
now, I'm adjusting my diet to maintain BF, with result of extreme drop of muscle.
my genetic is very complicated, and I think, either I bulk when I'm OFF, and cut while ON, or I'll have to start every time from the beginning!!!
Maybe HGH could help? I could be on several months, so never really go into a catabolic phase, and afford a clean diet like I'm doing right now.

[Back In Black]

Are these legit? Does anybody have any experience with them?

[BG]

Are these legit? Does anybody have any experience with them?

My training partner Jack used them , they worked great. Just don't get them wet !

[XxAndreaxX]

I lost weight in my last cycle, this one, was ok, I did not loose anything until now. but I don't want to go on arguing about my diet, If somebody mants to help me out and answer my questions, thanks, otherwise, let it.