advanced cycle advice

[spoon69]

whats up bros. i have been away from this site for a wile just recently got back on.

ok so ive been on trt for about a year now.
my stats are

29
195
15% bf
around 7 or 8 cycles maybe a couple more i lost count

ok so heres the deal i got a severe lower back strain in the middle of my second to last cycle that kept my out the gym for around a month. i finished the cycle because i had a show that i was sponsered for coming up then i cruised for about a month and went into my cycle for the show ( the show was a body transformation that ran for ten weeks ). about 5 weeks in sides got really bad and i was eventualy forced to drop cycle and all compounds and drop the show. through bloodwork and talking back and forth with my sponser we figured out that my ai was what went wrong. so anyways my diet went to shit for the past couple months and my training has not been the same so ive put on about 4% bf and lost about 15 pounds ( not good lol ) ive been cruising at my trt dose and just letting my body recover up untill now because as you can imagine the sides were pretty bad considering it made me drop out of this show.

so anyways my sponser has a ifbb pro getting online with me this week to tweak the diet i have made up and we have come up with a new blast and cruise to hopefully have me back in comp shape for late spring and i just wanted to see what you guys thoughts and advice would be on it. maybe i will find a few good ideas to tweak before i start. thanks brothers.

first blast ( bulk to gain back some of my lost size )

900mg test blend a week weeks 1-15
600mg deca a week weeks 1-15
50mg tbol every day weeks 1-4
450mg npp as a kick start for the deca weeks 1-4
proviron 25mg everyday
test suspension or tne 100mg one hour prior to working out ( this i may not do but it was a suggestion i got from a pro so i am considering it )

aromasin 25mg everyday split am and pm adjust as needed.
nolva on hand and used if needed.
caber at 0.5mg a week split two times weekly

hgh at 4iu everyday split twice a day

then cruise for 4 weeks at 225mg a week

then second blast ( this will be a cutter and my first run with tren )

test prop 50mg every day after a couple weeks i may raise this up. weeks 1-8
tren a 50mg every day after a couple weeks i may raise this also. weeks 1-8
same ai protacal as above adjusted as needed.
also i will run the proviron again here as well.

hgh stays the same i dont come off.


any ideas or advice will be apreciated thanks guys.
also any advice on the tren cycle would be great because its my first tren cycle. im trying to keep the tren real basic because its my first run but i also need results so i have to stay right on the edge of that fine line.

[MRNJ1992]

That sounds like a lot of stuff to put on a few pounds. Only thing on your list Ive taken is T. Didn't have a lot of that stuff in my days.The 80's that is. T and Dbol were the big thing back then. For me HRT works enough to put on weight. My dose is only 60mgs 2x a week and my weight goes up 15 pds with the blink of an eye. Good luck.

[crazy mike]

That sounds like a lot of stuff to put on a few pounds. Only thing on your list Ive taken is T. Didn't have a lot of that stuff in my days.The 80's that is. T and Dbol were the big thing back then. For me HRT works enough to put on weight. My dose is only 60mgs 2x a week and my weight goes up 15 pds with the blink of an eye. Good luck.

Ha, just reminiscing the 80's Test and Dbol was it. And for me at the end of cycle always Winstrol. Also this is a very intense cycle and I also think too many compounds. The base of Test and Deca are going to have the primary effect . ...crazy mike

[spoon69]

yes it is a very advanced and intense cycle. i am probaly going to drop the suspension i dont see the need for it almost a gram of test a week should be plenty lol. also i have been running my test at 900mg a week since i became competetive and it works nicely for me. this is by no means my first intense run. in your opinion what would you drop? please remember i am not just running a simple cycle for fun this blast and cruise is to get back to comp shape for spring...

thank you for any thoughts on this.

[Bert]

Awefully complicated.

[crazy mike]

OP, If this is not down to actual comp prep then You said that Test works good for you. It does me also.

So IMOP

Test 1,200 mg wk / 3 wk 1-15
Deca 600mg wk /2 wk 1-15
tbol 60 - 80 mgs ED wk 1-4
Adex and PCT as protocol

Dropping the Proviron and the NPP
This for this cycle is what I would do . ...crazy mike Simple

PS: next cycle a finishing type

[spoon69]

thanks crazy mike i have been thinking of dropping the npp as well. im not gonna raise the test higher then 900mg at this point because at this point 900mg has been my sweet spot. i know alot of people say the you should run your test double your deca dose but i have never had to do that. i have a ton of pharma grade caber on hand and proviron dose wounders for me on cycle.

im dropping the npp and the suspension.

thanks for your advice brother.

[drake4243]

thanks crazy mike i have been thinking of dropping the npp as well. im not gonna raise the test higher then 900mg at this point because at this point 900mg has been my sweet spot. i know alot of people say the you should run your test double your deca dose but i have never had to do that. i have a ton of pharma grade caber on hand and proviron dose wounders for me on cycle.

im dropping the npp and the suspension.

thanks for your advice brother.

Hey good luck on your cycle however people who say run test at twice the dose of deca are people who know zero about deca you can run it the same as your test dose or higher even does not matter ( depending on your test dose that is I would not recommend a 1200mg dose of deca) for example I am more referring to 500mg of deca 500mg of test type of thing. Deca is all about your estrogen control. If your E is gtg you are all set all that other crap is bro science. Have fun good luck.