allright, does test kick in once you have injected a total of 2000mg?

[thesecretuser]

allright guys here's an interesting question for you all, ive noticed that everybody says they're test kicks in on the 4th week if they are pinning 500mg a week which by then would be a total of 2000mg injected.
also guys that frontload with 1000mg of test a week tend to feel it by the second week, I also read somewhere about a guy that injected 2000 mg on the first week and just so happened to feel it on the first week.
So, coincidence? or....??

[Lunk1]

No...it is in your bloodstream very shortly after pinning. It takes a few weeks or so for the hormone levels to peak and level out. The time can change for everyone.

[austinite]

No. That's not how that works. 1000mg frontload is a joke and worthless in my opinion.

[thesecretuser]

my theory seemed to good to be true

[bass]

my theory seemed to good to be true

correct. testosterone is a slow release ester anyway, it releases into the blood stream slooooooly.

[thesecretuser]

K I need some hardcore education on this, ive read up a bit on it but its overly complicated and need someone to explain it to me in normal everyday English, my understanding so far is that testosterone is cumulative, so as long as you inject before it goes below its half life it should all just add up, so is the kick in effect relative to it adding up or does it simply take a month on average regardless of the dose?

[Bonaparte]

double post

[Bonaparte]

Honestly, with normal cycle doses it does seem to work much in that way.

[thesecretuser]

also, the other day I had some mad twitching on my right brachialis bicep, I have never ever ever had this before, does this mean anything? anything to do with my gear kicking in? I asked a few juicers I know and they said it means my gear has already kicked in or is about to kick in.
Id love to believe that is what it means but I honestly feel no change whatsoever at all I mean I haven't even gotten any sides or anything, altho I must say I did gain about 2 pounds, hmmm interesting. anyhow im on my 4th week, 600mgs a week of test 400 and 500mg a week of test e for my last 5 weeks. still don't feel anything.

[clarkey02]

also, the other day I had some mad twitching on my right brachialis bicep, I have never ever ever had this before, does this mean anything? anything to do with my gear kicking in? I asked a few juicers I know and they said it means my gear has already kicked in or is about to kick in. Id love to believe that is what it means but I honestly feel no change whatsoever at all I mean I haven't even gotten any sides or anything, altho I must say I did gain about 2 pounds, hmmm interesting. anyhow im on my 4th week, 600mgs a week of test 400 and 500mg a week of test e for my last 5 weeks. still don't feel anything.

Typically the first thing you'll notice with test is a slight increase in strength. All my lifts went up 3-4 weeks before I noticed anything cosmetically. The 2 pounds you've gained is likely water at this point. Everyone is a little different, and every testosterone is different. Given your question I would assume this is one of your first cycles so I wouldn't inject more than 400 mg a week. You'll get good gains from that alone if you eat and train right.

[kronz]

Twitching has roughly zero correlation at all to hormone levels lol as if you even have to ask

[thesecretuser]

Twitching has roughly zero correlation at all to hormone levels lol as if you even have to ask

hi, first off let me clarify something here, I am on this site because I am clearly a newb and barely know anything about steroids, and quite honestly you're not helping the cause, I absolutely had to ask because like my previous post that you or may not have read thoroughly states that this muscle twitching has never ever ever ever happened to me before and quite frankly I think its a strong coincidence that this happened while I am taking my first cycle, so if its not much to ask, please don't laugh at me for asking after all that is what this forum is intended for.
btw I did some research on it and turns out it can be caused by hormone changes.

[thesecretuser]

yeah that's the very first thing that came to mind, I even feel slightly bloated.
looks like a dose of arimidex is in order.

[Back In Black]

yeah that's the very first thing that came to mind, I even feel slightly bloated.
looks like a dose of arimidex is in order.

You should be running your AI anyway, not just because you think you have bloat. What is your cycle layout?

[clarky.]

Have a read at this it might tack a wee while but it will help you alot


http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

[Lunk1]

You should be running your AI anyway, not just because you think you have bloat. What is your cycle layout?

BIB, your like Customs for ARR. Everyone should have to clear you before posting lol.

[Brett N]

The expression "kicks in" isn't like a kick in the nuts that one second you don't feel it and the next second you do. You really should read the stickies on cycling for beginners. Sounds like you weren't prepared with AI, HCG or even how the test works. Do you have your pct in order also? This is all stuff you should know before doing that first pin.

[austinite]

No way. I've done this one too many times. Not how it works. Try frontloading 2 to 3 grams and you'll see worthwhile results sooner. Absolutely no amount of test E, not even 5 grams will have you at a week 6 level on day one. Not even God can give you that.

[Back In Black]

BIB, your like Customs for ARR. Everyone should have to clear you before posting lol.

Lol, I just have too much time on my hands at the minute.

[ScotchGuard02]

IMO, there are 2 issues that determine when the Test "kicks" in. First, Testosterone as a substance, without an ester, is very quickly absorbed into the body. For example, 100mg of Test Suspension will be absorbed much quicker than Test with the Propionate ester. Second, the esters helps the body retain the Test, over time, so the Test can accumulate. I use a spreadsheet to look at Test accumulation based on ester. Each ester has a different half life so the total accumulation of Test in the body differs over time. If you want to accumulate Test you can pin Test suspension several times a day, pin Test Prop every other day, Test Enth a couple of times a week, Test Cyp once a week, etc. The 2g before Test "kicks" in is not a variable and is not relevant the "kick" in event.

[thesecretuser]

i know a guy that injects a whole vial on day 1 and goes into a fever for the rest of the day and next day he already feels it. anyhow not arguing, just figured you guys might find that interesting, and as for the AI thing i have read in many places that its not must and that you can take it whenever you feel like it, besides i havent gotten any sides yet and figured it would be nice to see how my body reacts, without an AI just to gain some experience and see if i even need one. The main site that i read that you can take an AI only when you feel like you need was steroid.com under novice cycles.

[thesecretuser]

Yes i do have my pct ready, and as for this whole post i simply asked out of curiosity not that i was getting impatient and was about to inject a whole vial, anyhow thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question!

[Cuz]

Lay out your cycle man so we can see what you plan on running.

[AD]

with each pin, your blood T level peaks within a few days. with each pin, the peaks get higher and higher, until steady state is reached. changes in the body takes place immediately, like changes to the test receptors, increase protein synthesis.

but for everything to add up into something you can feel, like an increase in strength and increase in visible muscle mass, that will take wks.

[thesecretuser]

this is my cycle and please do not even mention hcg, it is impossible for me to get

week 1 - 2
test 400 400 mg a week
week 3- 4
test 400 700 mg a week
week 5-7
test 400 600 mg a week
week 8-12
test e 500 mg a week
test enanthate 500 mg a week

p.s about week 3 and 4 i screwed up on my math thats why those weeks got 700mg a week, than i realized that my math was way off then i split the remainder into 3 parts which gave me 600mg a week, there is no other reason for why i did this, i simply screwd up on my math and thought splitting the remainder in 5 was 700.

arimidex .25 ed starting today
pct, nolva, clomid

i know its a bit too much for my first cycle but i want to make this cycle worth it, i know i will lose some of my gains, so i figured what if i just get more gains? this way i get to keep more of my gains

the reason i upped my dose is because i wanted to extend my cycle by 2 weeks, and i didnt have enough to extend so i'm getting a test e 10 ml 250mg vial in mexico, and ill damned if i let extra gear just sit around my house. I already asked my guys downthere if they had hcg...... the answer is no.

either than that do go ahead and judge , i also plan on pinning twice a week for my test e, just seems like 2 ml at once is a bit harsh.

by the way i'm am certain that the gear has kicked in now, i went to the gym today and got the hugest pump ever, my chest was so pumped that it actually hurt when i flexed it, ive also gained 4 pounds so far, nearly half an inch on my arms, but my strength gains were'nt anything special or out of the ordinary, i did the same weight i always do but i noticed that everything seemed a tad bit lighter, i didnt try and break any personal records, instead i simply did my same "heavy weights" with excellent form, this is certainly the best high in the world lol.

Oh yeah forgot to mention i just started my 4th week yesterday.

[Cuz]

this is my cycle and please do not even mention hcg, it is impossible for me to get

week 1 - 2
test 400 400 mg a week
week 3- 4
test 400 700 mg a week
week 5-7
test 400 600 mg a week
week 8-12
test e 500 mg a week
test enanthate 500 mg a week

p.s about week 3 and 4 i screwed up on my math thats why those weeks got 700mg a week, than i realized that my math was way off then i split the remainder into 3 parts which gave me 600mg a week, there is no other reason for why i did this, i simply screwd up on my math and thought splitting the remainder in 5 was 700.

arimidex .25 ed starting today
pct, nolva, clomid

i know its a bit too much for my first cycle but i want to make this cycle worth it, i know i will lose some of my gains, so i figured what if i just get more gains? this way i get to keep more of my gains

the reason i upped my dose is because i wanted to extend my cycle by 2 weeks, and i didnt have enough to extend so i'm getting a test e 10 ml 250mg vial in mexico, and ill damned if i let extra gear just sit around my house. I already asked my guys downthere if they had hcg...... the answer is no.

either than that do go ahead and judge , i also plan on pinning twice a week for my test e, just seems like 2 ml at once is a bit harsh.

by the way i'm am certain that the gear has kicked in now, i went to the gym today and got the hugest pump ever, my chest was so pumped that it actually hurt when i flexed it, ive also gained 4 pounds so far, nearly half an inch on my arms, but my strength gains were'nt anything special or out of the ordinary, i did the same weight i always do but i noticed that everything seemed a tad bit lighter, i didnt try and break any personal records, instead i simply did my same "heavy weights" with excellent form, this is certainly the best high in the world lol.


Oh yeah forgot to mention i just started my 4th week yesterday.

careful now.

you should have ran test at 500mg a week for 12 weeks your first cycle that's it. that gear down there you speak of is usually crap man, hate to bust your bubble.

[thesecretuser]

careful now.

you should have ran test at 500mg a week for 12 weeks your first cycle that's it. that gear down there you speak of is usually crap man, hate to bust your bubble.

This gear in particular aint crap, i'm not going into some dark alley to buy steroids nor to a pharmacy this an actual pharmaceutical company that i'm buying off of, i know the people and people that get they're gear from them and it sure as hell works for them.
And yeah i know that 500 hundred a week from the start wouldve been the best its just that i originally planned to run 400 for 10 weeks since it was all that was available at the moment then i started to get ideas which brings us to my current cycle lol.