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    Quick ques about pct new old products info about stats new user

    Hello Am 23 years old been training for 8 years am 1.77tall 87kg with 13%bf or less sth like that
    Now i never used an kind of cycle i was all those 8 years training dieting with out messing an season or meal haha barley do am kinda dedicated to this like a drug lol..

    I been cutting bulking changing workout plan etc doing all that stuff tried all natural products

    been searching reading about this for quit some time now i know how to push my body if i wanna gain weight or if i wanna cut up i know exactly how my body react
    deadlift 150kg for 6 reps and am cutting btw
    bench 110-130kg max for 2 reps
    squat 185kg(today) for 7 reps those are my stats now i was bulking now cutting but still doing same wight anyways i wanted to try a test e cycle but first wanted to ask you guys about pct products

    Wanted to ask about pct it seems like now days pct been so complicated unlike oldschool or just ppl wanna make ppl buy products that they sponsors
    Seems like there is like 8 or 9 products recommended for pct example
    novala
    Unleashed
    PhytoSERM-347 (this cost 200$ btw)
    N2 GUARD
    GW-501516 (Cardarine
    MK-2866 (Ostarine)
    Hcg( this 1 i know for long time known for long time)
    clomid( i know this 1 too not new)
    Liquidex (This for AI)
    Bridge
    Am not being cheap here i just want to know really now ppl use all that to make the pct perfect ? i mean if you guys have experience with this i will surely do use all of them its better to pay no matter how much it cost than being sorry later in life cus u was cheap but do i need all of those?

    I know that ppl always use clomi novala and Hcg
    Or some use unleashed new product with hcg and clomid

    Am running 500 test t for 13 week that's about it

    Now you guys recommended clomid with novala and hcg and an AI

    But i was told clomid and novala sucks they raises SHBG and nolva lowers Igf also nolva or clomid do not lower estrogen and when you come off of its not uncommon to have a estrogen rebound also

    They can cause Major triglyceride and glucose problems and even to the point of Severe hypertriglyceridemia or also Pancreatitis



    So what you guys think ?


    Apologies for long msg tried to make it as simple as i can

    Cheers!
    Last edited by ken9; 01-18-2014 at 06:41 PM.

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