1.5 weeks test e no weight gain?

[mmazz]

I'm currently at 1.5 weeks test e from gp, I know it's legit because the Isn number checks out on the company's website. I'm at 3400 calories a day, lifting 6 days a week all decently heavy to promote growth. My friends keep telling me I'm getting bigger yet neither my weight nor my bf % has changed. Is it possible that I'm dosing my aromasin too high? I was told 12.5mg/day on these forums. Any help would be much appreciated. I know it's not really supposed to kick in until weeks 3-4 but I figured I would see some weight already.

[VegasBody]

Arimidex (Anastrozole) is what we call an aromatase inhibitor (AI). In clinical use, it***8217;s used to halt the progression of Breast Cancer in women. It works by blocking the aromatase enzyme, which is responsible for the production of estrogen. In athletics and bodybuilding, it is used as an ancillary compound to be added to a cycle of Anabolic Steroids. In this respect it is also used for its estrogen reducing properties, but it has the additional benefit of increasing testosterone levels, as we***8217;ll see...

Arimidex Side Effects
Many anabolic steroids aromatize (convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme), and this is responsible for many of the unwanted side effects found with anabolic steroid use (acne, gynocomastia, water-retention, etc...). In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). In that same study, in both groups, LH and FSH also went up slightly.

Changes in testosterone and E2 concentrations in normal young men (15 22 yr old) before () and after 10 days of oral Anastrozole at 0.5 and 1 mg.(1)

This would seem to suggest that for use during a cycle, a dose of .5mgs/day would be sufficient to combat estrogen-related side effects. It is, however, important to remember that some estrogen is necessary to obtain optimal muscle growth. The lower estrogen levels provided by ´dex seems, anecdotally at least, to produce a more "hard" and "quality" look for bodybuilders who have experimented with it***8217;s use in either a cutting or bulking cycle.

I´d like to point out that the elevation in Testosterone provided by Arimidex is so large that it can be used as a "form" of testosterone replacement therapy for hypogonadal men (2). Clearly, this suggests its use in a post-cycle-therapy (as well as its previously discussed use within a cycle) to regain natural testosterone levels and full functioning of the HPTA (Hypothalamic-Testicular-Pituitary-Axis).

Literature provided by the original maker of Anastrozole (Arimidex, produced by Zeneca Pharmaceuticals) states that stable blood plasma concentrations of the compound are achieved after a mere 7 consecutive 1mg daily doses. Also, Arimidex is just over 80% effective at inhibiting aromatase (3). Thus, if you want to take it for the entire duration of a cycle of anabolic steroids, you can simply start taking it on the same day you begin your cycle. Those are some pretty good numbers, huh?

But can you use it for the entire duration of a cycle? Is it dangerous? Well, certainly reducing estrogen levels in your body is good from a body building point of view, as it reduces water-retention and the potential for gynocomastia (if there***8217;s no estrogen in your body, you can***8217;t get gyno, regardless of how much progesterone is floating around)(5). Luckily this stuff is very mild on blood lipids (cholesterol) and doesn***8217;t affect them adversely (2), in the studies I***8217;ve seen.

Arimidex and Cholestrol
As previously mentioned, those lowered estrogen levels could possibly (eventually) adversely affect your cholesterol and possibly even your immune function. I am, however, very comfortable recommending Arimidex for relatively long-term use. This should be the ancillary compound of choice for those on long and heavy cycles, especially since it also doesn***8217;t inhibit igf like some other ancillary compounds (insulin-like-growth-factor is an important component of anabolism)(4).


Aromasin
Exemestane
Aromasin (Exemestane) is a steroidal suicide aromatase inhibitor, which means that it lowers estrogen production in the body by blocking the aromatase enzyme, the enzyme responsible for estrogen systemization. (1)(2)(3)

This stuff was developed to fight breast cancer in post-menopausal women, who need a particularly aggressive therapy, and for whom first line defenses such as SERMS (Tamoxifen) have not worked. This should be our first clue in inferring that this stuff is pretty strong, or at least stronger than some of the other compounds which are used to fight breast cancer.

Aromasin and Side Effects
Aromasin averages an 85% rate of estrogen suppression (4), so it***8217;s clearly a very effective agent for bodybuilders and other athletes wanting to avoid estrogen related side effects such as gyno, acne, or water-retention brought on by aromatizing steroids. Specifically, Exemestane dose this by selectively inhibiting aromatase activity in a time-dependent and irreversible manner (hence the "suicidal" portion of it***8217;s name, I guess).(7)

As with most of the compounds in this class, it also causes a reasonable rise in testosterone levels (6), and as you may have guessed, this rise in testosterone means that Exemestane can also cause androgenic sides(8)(9)(10). Exemestane is very effective at both lowering estrogen (estradiol) and raising testosterone:
Estrogen and androgen plasma levels after 10 d of daily exemestane (25 or 50 mg) in healthy young males (mean ± SD; n = 9-11). To convert to System International units: estradiol, Pico moles per liter (x3.671); estrone, picomoles per liter (x3.699); androstenedione, nanomoles per liter (*0.003492); and testosterone, nanomoles per liter (x0.03467). (13)

So we can see that 25mgs is a very effective dose from that chart, right? As an added benefit, exemestane not only increases testosterone and lowers estrogen, but it also increases IGF levels (11).Additionally Worth noting is that Aromasin may possibly be less harsh on blood lipids (14)than some of the other (similar) compounds we use in the world of bodybuilding or athletics (other AI´s). It also has, at best no effect on IGF, and at worst could lower (13) it. AI´s are very tricky with regards to inconsistencies in IGF levels.

Unfortunately, you need to take Exemestane for a week to reach steady blood plasma levels of it, and exemestane has a ½ life of 27 hours (12.).

The ability of exemestane to lower estrogen levels by the aforementioned 85% makes it a very nice choice for use in any cycle where aromatizing steroids are used. In addition, since it***8217;s not too harsh at all on blood lipid profiles, it***8217;s a very good choice for longer cycles. It***8217;s ability to raise both testosterone levels also seem to suggest that it would be a very nice addition to a Post-Cycle-Therapy (PCT).

[itsjayman02]

I'm currently at 1.5 weeks test e from gp, I know it's legit because the Isn number checks out on the company's website. I'm at 3400 calories a day, lifting 6 days a week all decently heavy to promote growth. My friends keep telling me I'm getting bigger yet neither my weight nor my bf % has changed. Is it possible that I'm dosing my aromasin too high? I was told 12.5mg/day on these forums. Any help would be much appreciated. I know it's not really supposed to kick in until weeks 3-4 but I figured I would see some weight already.

Patience !!

[HereinDC]

Patience !!

Yes. Patience!

[Capebuffalo]

I'm currently at 1.5 weeks test e from gp, I know it's legit because the Isn number checks out on the company's website. I'm at 3400 calories a day, lifting 6 days a week all decently heavy to promote growth. My friends keep telling me I'm getting bigger yet neither my weight nor my bf % has changed. Is it possible that I'm dosing my aromasin too high? I was told 12.5mg/day on these forums. Any help would be much appreciated. I know it's not really supposed to kick in until weeks 3-4 but I figured I would see some weight already.

Stats?

[diesel101]

Remember its a marathon not a sprint.

[sfgiantsfan55]

I'm currently at 1.5 weeks test e from gp, I know it's legit because the Isn number checks out on the company's website. I'm at 3400 calories a day, lifting 6 days a week all decently heavy to promote growth. My friends keep telling me I'm getting bigger yet neither my weight nor my bf % has changed. Is it possible that I'm dosing my aromasin too high? I was told 12.5mg/day on these forums. Any help would be much appreciated. I know it's not really supposed to kick in until weeks 3-4 but I figured I would see some weight already.

whats your age? wt? ht? any other activities that are eating up your calories (basketball, soccer etc)?... i ate like a gorilla 24/7 but couldnt gain weight till my metab slowed down around 25yo..granted i wasnt on test..(sure as heck wish i had been in retrospect)

[mmazz]

I know patience but it's harder than it sounds lol. I'm 22, 5'5" 155 10% bf. I just keep seeing by week 2 most people have gained 5 pounds or so, and i just wanted to make sure my aromasin dosage isn't going to hurt my gains. Nothing besides lifting and 15 mins cardio 2x per week. My metabolism is unreal I can eat a nice 800 cal meal and still be hungry 5 minutes after I finish eating. I want to lower my bf % while increasing my weight which is why I'm on all complex carbs now and don't want to go too high on carbs and fats.

[qscgugcsq]

Aromasin take time to build up and can hardly shut your e2 down anyway.(studies has been done at 50mg/day on normal individual(no exogeneous test) and they were still in normal range) So overdosing Aro is hard...and expensive...
so dont worry about you Aromasin.

patience, and increase calorie. even if your test in bunk you will be gaining weight if you increase calorie (I don't trust GP, I strongly believe they are bunk... But thats just my Opinion I have no experience3 with them.)

[mmazz]

I've seen labs on gp test e 250 saying it contains more than 250mg of test so if anything from what I've seen it's overdosed. I've heard a lot of good things about it so I decided to give it a shot. My lifts have gone up slightly so I don't think it's bunk, but I guess well find out

[Monbrow89]

When I take test E it takes 3 or 4 weeks to kick in. Be patient.

[redz]

Just because someone posted something saying its over doses doesn't mean you should trust it. I would not use gp at this point I have heard too much negative about it.

[Ashop]

I'm currently at 1.5 weeks test e from gp, I know it's legit because the Isn number checks out on the company's website. I'm at 3400 calories a day, lifting 6 days a week all decently heavy to promote growth. My friends keep telling me I'm getting bigger yet neither my weight nor my bf % has changed. Is it possible that I'm dosing my aromasin too high? I was told 12.5mg/day on these forums. Any help would be much appreciated. I know it's not really supposed to kick in until weeks 3-4 but I figured I would see some weight already.

I would use the AROMASIN EOD at that dose. I think many people take too much.

[DiyGynoSurgeon]

I would use the AROMASIN EOD at that dose. I think many people take too much.

I have used Aromasin at 12.5EOD and even that was too much, I had to back it off for E3-4D, there's too much bro science regarding dosing on these sites (I am not very sensitive to estro)

OP - Your only a week and a half in? - what are you expecting, to be 200lbs after a couple of weeks

When most people say they have gained X amount of weight in 2-3 weeks on steroids you can guarantee that most of it if not all of it will be water retention weight and that they are not keeping on top of their estro

* From reading your replies, I would also go to the nutrition section if I was you to make the most out of this

On Test E from week 4 you will notice that you will start enjoying your workouts more and recovery will be better, then.....Week 6 you will explode with size and strength

[evander87]

Patience as it's been said, if that doesn't work eat more.