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    Tren anxiety this morning.

    Tren ace finally caught up to me early this morning after taking my shot few 3 hours earlier than normal.

    This is about 7th and last week on tren. Fell asleep for maybe 20 minutes then all the sudden woke up with a sort of anxiety feeling. It was a bunch of different feelings and feeling like I wasn't getting enough air was one of them. Woke my wife up and explained to her what was happening to me. The way I was able to deal with this problem was to tire myself out by having sex. If I didn't do that I really don't know how I would have got through it.

    To all reading this, tren is real scary shit. I'm surprised that it took so long to fock with my mind. The insomnia that it creates really gets to you. Please proceed with caution. Just sharing my experience.

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    Welcome to Trenselvalnia - it's a scary, dark place - yet, everyone looks oh so swolle

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Welcome to Trenselvalnia - it's a scary, dark place - yet, everyone looks oh so swolle
    LMFAO!!! Too funny ^^^

    Happy new years brother!

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    worth it tho right

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead
    worth it tho right

    It's a matter of opinion

    Many old time juicers and other seasoned guys stay as far from tren as possible

    To me - well, it's time to come off when my brain feels like it's getting nuked

    It's no joke - push tren slowly to about 100mg a day & you'll understand after a week or 2

    I seem to be sleeping well - but, racing thoughts & mild fast anxiety attacks are very real

    So far I control it very well - even after coming off my script of nightly benzos & being in recovery from other shit

    But, I keep a very close eye on myself

    Oh yeah, happy New Years

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    Ya I was saying that because from what I've seen its worth every side I got, it was underdosed so I'm doing what I'll call my first properly dosed run with it in 4 long weeks and well see what I think after that hopefully the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
    It's a matter of opinion Many old time juicers and other seasoned guys stay as far from tren as possible To me - well, it's time to come off when my brain feels like it's getting nuked It's no joke - push tren slowly to about 100mg a day & you'll understand after a week or 2 I seem to be sleeping well - but, racing thoughts & mild fast anxiety attacks are very real So far I control it very well - even after coming off my script of nightly benzos & being in recovery from other shit But, I keep a very close eye on myself Oh yeah, happy New Years
    I'm in recovery too brother

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    Tren is awesome.........but its nothing like you have ever experienced. The night sweats, mental state, vivid dreams, insomnia .............its wild. Just like telling a kid not to stick his finger in a light socket .....he needs to see for himself, good luck.

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    I am 3 shots into my tren cycle, DONT SCARE ME !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz View Post
    I am 3 shots into my tren cycle, DONT SCARE ME !!!
    Hold on.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    Hold on.........
    Im scared, When does this tren ace take effect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz
    Im scared, When does this tren ace take effect!
    Thought you we're semi pro

    I carry a Xanax on standby just in case along with a handful of aspirin

    Haven't had to use it though

    Yet, my sides to sound as bad as some. I sleep well, but tren area are still there, no night sweats, but it's like 65 in the house and I walk around without a shirt on - yet, my woman is freezing. The intermittent pumps are def for an acquired taste - I like em though. I sweat bullets my whole entire workout.

    This is at 70mg a day of the best cleanest ace you can get your claws on < which I can no longer get

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Thought you we're semi pro

    I carry a Xanax on standby just in case along with a handful of aspirin

    Haven't had to use it though

    Yet, my sides to sound as bad as some. I sleep well, but tren area are still there, no night sweats, but it's like 65 in the house and I walk around without a shirt on - yet, my woman is freezing. The intermittent pumps are def for an acquired taste - I like em though. I sweat bullets my whole entire workout.

    This is at 70mg a day of the best cleanest ace you can get your claws on < which I can no longer get

    Semi pro naturally, this is my first comp un natural.

    If I want to meet my goal and go PRO in the next 2 years, tren and I will have to get along !

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    I noticed it begining of second week how much you doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead View Post
    I noticed it begining of second week how much you doing
    Im on 300mg EOD with test P and masteron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz View Post
    Im on 300mg EOD with test P and masteron.
    A bit much for your first run. You don't even know how you handle it yet.
    I would say you start at 50mg ED and see how it goes. That much Tren is going to make you very lethargic, it will interfere with your work outs. You will burn through more calories than you can keep up with. You won't be able to feed your body fast enough.

    Test Prop 100mg. Mast Prop 100mg, Tren Ace 100mg - OED injections???
    Tren = 3ml injection?? where are you putting that?
    Test = probably 2ml??? again where?
    Mast = probably 2ml?? again?
    Last edited by gold43; 01-01-2015 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold43 View Post
    A bit much for your first run. You don't even know how you handle it yet.
    I would say you start at 50mg ED and see how it goes. That much Tren is going to make you very lethargic, it will interfere with your work outs. You will burn through more calories than you can keep up with. You won't be able to feed your body fast enough.

    Test Prop 100mg. Mast Prop 100mg, Tren Ace 100mg - OED injections???
    Tren = 3ml injection?? where are you putting that?
    Test = probably 2ml??? again where?
    Mast = probably 2ml?? again?
    I do 1 ml of each, 3 times a week in my quad.

    Mon-Wed-Friday

    3 mls in my quad is easy man, I do it with no issues, I just did 9 weeks of NPP,EQ,TEST E , same deal.

    SORRY I think I typed out something wrong LOL
    Im on 300mg a WEEK, 100mg every injection, 3 times a week.

    Hope that clears things up
    Last edited by Haydenz; 01-01-2015 at 05:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz View Post
    I do 1 ml of each, 3 times a week in my quad.

    Mon-Wed-Friday

    3 mls in my quad is easy man, I do it with no issues, I just did 9 weeks of NPP,EQ,TEST E , same deal.

    SORRY I think I typed out something wrong LOL
    Im on 300mg a WEEK, 100mg every injection, 3 times a week.

    Hope that clears things up
    lol, much better! you will do fine with that.

    For now......focus on this cycle and don't worry about the next. Pay attention to detail and learn about yourself that way your cycles will get better and better.
    Perfect advice for you Hayenz!

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    I find that ED injections and HGH really keep my sides to a minimum. Even at 100mg ED. By about the 8th week tho, I am starting to lose mental clarity. I go 10 weeks, but shit starts to get fuzzy. So my cut off is 8 weeks.

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    I need to live alone on tren....but that's me. Sometime in the beginning if the third I start rolling and the train keeps going. We all have different accounts ...try to act like its no big deal and be careful making important decisions.

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    I second ed to eod is a huge difference in side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead
    I second ed to eod is a huge difference in side effects
    I actually got my sides from ED, but the increases in workout intensity is insane. EOD was slight insomnia but manageable. Pillowcase wet from night sweats and occasional cold chill.

    Anyone that knows how to control a big anxiety attack is one stone cold mofo. There is no way i want this to happen again. The funny thing though is that I still want to take my pin tomorrow.

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    Well, being realistic - I don't get anything mentioned until I push higher does

    But, when I get up in dose - the train turns into a locomotive real quick - fvck 0-100 < more like 0 to 225

    My woman now see's the darker juice vial & knows the train is getting ready to depart < stay the fvck out of its way, it don't stop when it gets going
    Last edited by < <Samson> >; 01-01-2015 at 03:45 PM.

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    bring that tren down I'd be scared to that's way to much fist run

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    I was reading - holly hell, he's gonna explode

    300mg a week is very decent - I start it right at that, then pyramid up - then down

    100mg EOD, 50mg Qd, 70mg Qd then 100

    I keep mast a tad higher than the tren & test a tad lower that tren

    Right now it comes out to 420/525/560

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    On ace about the 2nd week the irritability begins. It levels off for me about week 4. Then I taper my dose up to about as much as I can handle. Usually =<100 ed. I would recommend starting at 50-75mg eod until you see how you do. My first run with tren I didn't make it past 3weeks.

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    Im at, 300/300/300

    Keeping it simple , then see how i react.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz View Post
    Im at, 300/300/300

    Keeping it simple , then see how i react.
    You should be fine on that dose of tren.....conservative but will give you a taste.

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    I just like the test a tad lower than tren. Plus the higher mast seems to help with DHT sides - so I keep it higher

    I did an equal on all 3 & my dick didn't work - just me though

    It hits everyone differently. . . I tried higher test than tren & my moobs ache

    Do whatever works for you

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    I'll still get full effect though right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz
    I'll still get full effect though right ?
    Don't pvssy out man - straight G of each will do you solid < lmao

    Kidding - don't try this, like for real

    Like mentioned - it's trial & error

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Don't pvssy out man - straight G of each will do you solid < lmao

    Kidding - don't try this, like for real

    Like mentioned - it's trial & error
    the good old night sweats completely forgot about those that. I only run test at 200 for any cycle being ran with other compounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I just like the test a tad lower than tren. Plus the higher mast seems to help with DHT sides - so I keep it higher

    I did an equal on all 3 & my dick didn't work - just me though

    It hits everyone differently. . . I tried higher test than tren & my moobs ache

    Do whatever works for you
    I agree.....on a higher dose of tren 2:1 is hard to beat especially on a cut. I like it at 1:1 but the sides always creep up on me.

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    But 2:1 is just personal preference, you don't gain anything from it though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz View Post
    I'll still get full effect though right ?
    You will get the fullest effect that you are ready for. Grow into your doses and don't be in a rush. There is no point to doing a ton of gear with the associated cost and the not so fun side effects that you could easily avoid and get the same results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz View Post
    But 2:1 is just personal preference, you don't gain anything from it though?
    I am sure you will eventually try it 1:1, 2:1, or 1:2.... and that's cool. You will find out the pros and cons of each. For now......focus on this cycle and don't worry about the next. Pay attention to detail and learn about yourself that way your cycles will get better and better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeingSwole View Post
    Tren ace finally caught up to me early this morning after taking my shot few 3 hours earlier than normal.

    This is about 7th and last week on tren. Fell asleep for maybe 20 minutes then all the sudden woke up with a sort of anxiety feeling. It was a bunch of different feelings and feeling like I wasn't getting enough air was one of them. Woke my wife up and explained to her what was happening to me. The way I was able to deal with this problem was to tire myself out by having sex. If I didn't do that I really don't know how I would have got through it.

    To all reading this, tren is real scary shit. I'm surprised that it took so long to fock with my mind. The insomnia that it creates really gets to you. Please proceed with caution. Just sharing my experience.
    How much TREN are you using??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN
    How much TREN are you using??
    Was doing 100mg eod for first 5 weeks. I then switch to 50-60mg ED last 8 days. my hand is often a lil heavy on the puller hence the range.

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    Ok 1 g of each, will start tomorrow, do they make 10ml syringes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenz
    Ok 1 g of each, will start tomorrow, do they make 10ml syringes?
    I just use the flavor injector I got with the turkey this year


    Yeah, panic attacks & sudden anxiety sure is special. After coming clean off the other shit I have been on, it's kinda easy in comparison. I was just recalling my 1st cycle on tren. I got it up to 70mg per day & barely made it through week 7 before feeling like I was losing my mind.

    Next heavy tren ace cycle was last year and I got up to the same dose - my ass. This shit was underdosed for sure - real, yes - but, nothing like the shit I am on now which is the same stuff I ran on my first cycle.

    Sure wish I got more from this guy before he lost his marbles.

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