this is my next cycle in put would be nice lean bulk gonna

[bigj123]

my package got lost in the mail due to the holidays so most likely i will start in feb after i come back from a vacay....my stats are 28 5'10 230 i use to weight 310 pounds .... so i have a huge frame im in the best shape of my life... my goal is to lose body fat and pack on lean muscle ... also my cycle experience this would be my 2nd hard cycle with me knowing what i'm doing the first one i wont count




2cc of gp andromix (50mgtren ace, 50mgtest prop, 50mg Masteron) eod
1cc gp test prop eod
50mg gp anavar ed
25mg gp Exemestane eod

pct i have in hand
5000 icu hcg
1 gp Clomiphene (Clomid)
1 gp Proviron
1 gp Nolva (Nolvadex)


any in put would be nice

[DOSA]

Congrats on the weight loss. Love to hear this stuff, keep up the good work.
really want to know your bf?

the cycle is a mess and not for you my friend. always keep things simple when doing your first or even your second cycle. In theory this will be your first cycle as you said the first you didnt count.
Do not rush into this, you are going to be adjusting your chemicals buddy, which will affect how you feel and live.

[musclestack]

How long are you planning to run this cycle? What would you say your body fat percentage is right now? Since you want to lose body fat and gain lean tissue at the same time, you're basically talking about a body recomp. This is difficult to do, even for people who have been in the game for quite some time. Congrats on losing the weight, but I think you would benefit from getting down to around 15% bodyfat before going on a cycle (again, you didn't post your bf% so I can't be sure, but I'm assuming it's still much higher than that...just a hunch). I'm a strong advoacte of using AAS to put on as much size as possible; losing body fat, I can do without AAS, although there are plenty that use is while cutting; to each his own.

I don't really care for the compounds you're using; too complicated, especially for a "first" cycle. I would stick with Test only; you should see great gains from this. It would also help if you would post how many mg you were taking of each per week, and not how many cc's. I can probably guess what each is dosed at and be right, but many labs dose their product differently. For example, how many mg are in 1 cc of prop? How many mg of clomid and nolva will you be taking each day? If you do plant to run this, I would drop the andromix, and keep the test prop; maybe even increase is to 1.5 cc eod (assuming that it's dosed at 100mg/mL). You can run the Anavar, but I would use it that last 6 weeks of the cycle, and not the whole way through.

Hope this helps.

[NACH3]

^^Agree with musclestack on this... But again great job on the weight loss!!!

But cycling at 15+% bf is asking for side effects(high estrogenic sides - gyno, E2 levels will go up,higher testosterone to estrogen conversion, etc)...

Plus adding compounds b4 a Real Test only cycle is not good b/c if and when side effects start you won't be able to pin point the compound w/out BW... Otherwise your just guessing! Running a test only cycle first will help you figure out how your body will react to testosterone... Furthermore, this will allow you later to know which compound is causing what... Make sense?

Good luck

[bigj123]

thanks for the replys this is not my first cycle... this would be my 2nd cycle with good knownledge but overall my 4th but the first two cycles i did i had no idea what i was doing.... i got this cycle for free for doing a video log on the products i took to lose 80 pounds they gave me 800 bucks... i plan on running this for 60 days... i would say im about 20% bf or maybe less or maybe a bit more i would have to find out... i'm so ready for this cycle kinda bummed out the package got lost.... i also have 300 winny tabs but i prefer to stay off winny for this cycle and run anavar....

[bigj123]

the test prop is 100mg

How long are you planning to run this cycle? What would you say your body fat percentage is right now? Since you want to lose body fat and gain lean tissue at the same time, you're basically talking about a body recomp. This is difficult to do, even for people who have been in the game for quite some time. Congrats on losing the weight, but I think you would benefit from getting down to around 15% bodyfat before going on a cycle (again, you didn't post your bf% so I can't be sure, but I'm assuming it's still much higher than that...just a hunch). I'm a strong advoacte of using AAS to put on as much size as possible; losing body fat, I can do without AAS, although there are plenty that use is while cutting; to each his own.

I don't really care for the compounds you're using; too complicated, especially for a "first" cycle. I would stick with Test only; you should see great gains from this. It would also help if you would post how many mg you were taking of each per week, and not how many cc's. I can probably guess what each is dosed at and be right, but many labs dose their product differently. For example, how many mg are in 1 cc of prop? How many mg of clomid and nolva will you be taking each day? If you do plant to run this, I would drop the andromix, and keep the test prop; maybe even increase is to 1.5 cc eod (assuming that it's dosed at 100mg/mL). You can run the Anavar, but I would use it that last 6 weeks of the cycle, and not the whole way through.

Hope this helps.

[musclestack]

thanks for the replys this is not my first cycle... this would be my 2nd cycle with good knownledge but overall my 4th but the first two cycles i did i had no idea what i was doing.... i got this cycle for free for doing a video log on the products i took to lose 80 pounds they gave me 800 bucks... i plan on running this for 60 days... i would say im about 20% bf or maybe less or maybe a bit more i would have to find out... i'm so ready for this cycle kinda bummed out the package got lost.... i also have 300 winny tabs but i prefer to stay off winny for this cycle and run anavar....

Hmm...so now you're saying you've done 3 cycles prior to this? Or 2? Listen, whatever the case may be, my advice still remains the same. If you want to run AAS, stick to test only this time around. I would even drop the Winny. You already mentioned you messed up with your cycle(s) prior to this one, so now is the time to do it right. Stick with the Test Prop @ 100 (or 150)mg per day; run the HCG @ 500iu per week split into 2 shots per week; keep your AI, and plan out a proper PCT. Start the PCT 4 days after your last injection of Prop.

Personally, I would take 2-3 months to get down to around 15% bodyfat or lower before starting anything for the reasons NACH3 mentioned. You'll be much better off as far as sides AND gains go.

the test prop is 100mg

I figured. Good luck!

[Buster Brown]

Congrats on your bf lose ...that's def a great accomplishment. If I were you I would drop that bf a few more clicks before pulling the trigger and here's why .....after your cycle you are going to rebound a bit and put some weight back on so why not make the cycle count and have more to show for it post cycle.

[bigj123]

i want to thank you for your advice but idk why ppl have to bash every other on here this would be my 2nd hard cycle ive done 3 cycles before this one

thanks for the replys this is not my first cycle... this would be my 2nd cycle with good knownledge but overall my 4th but the first two cycles i did i had no idea what i was doing.... i got this cycle for free for doing a video log on the products i took to lose 80 pounds they gave me 800 bucks... i plan on running this for 60 days... i would say im about 20% bf or maybe less or maybe a bit more i would have to find out... i'm so ready for this cycle kinda bummed out the package got lost.... i also have 300 winny tabs but i prefer to stay off winny for this cycle and run anavar....

Hmm...so now you're saying you've done 3 cycles prior to this? Or 2? Listen, whatever the case may be, my advice still remains the same. If you want to run AAS, stick to test only this time around. I would even drop the Winny. You already mentioned you messed up with your cycle(s) prior to this one, so now is the time to do it right. Stick with the Test Prop @ 100 (or 150)mg per day; run the HCG @ 500iu per week split into 2 shots per week; keep your AI, and plan out a proper PCT. Start the PCT 4 days after your last injection of Prop.

Personally, I would take 2-3 months to get down to around 15% bodyfat or lower before starting anything for the reasons NACH3 mentioned. You'll be much better off as far as sides AND gains go.



I figured. Good luck!

[bigj123]

i got off a cycle in oct of winny ed for 2 months tabs and test prop eod for 3 months with t3 and clen ....i know how to maintain stuck at 230 i go down to 227 and then bounce back and forth i eat really healthy and push myself to reach goals that other people think are in impossible nothing is in impossible with hard work

Congrats on your bf lose ...that's def a great accomplishment. If I were you I would drop that bf a few more clicks before pulling the trigger and here's why .....after your cycle you are going to rebound a bit and put some weight back on so why not make the cycle count and have more to show for it post cycle.

[Buster Brown]

i got off a cycle in oct of winny ed for 2 months tabs and test prop eod for 3 months with t3 and clen ....i know how to maintain stuck at 230 i go down to 227 and then bounce back and forth i eat really healthy and push myself to reach goals that other people think are in impossible nothing is in impossible with hard work

Try Carb cycling.. might help you get past your sticking point.

[bigj123]

i been trying to get back to carb cycling but i started a new job at a landscape company i work from 5-5 its pretty tough to not eat carbs for energy the job is heavy labor ... but i been thinking of running the warrior diet again i got amazing results ... thank you for your help

Try Carb cycling.. might help you get past your sticking point.

[bigj123]

i been trying to get back to carb cycling but i started a new job at a landscape company i work from 5am-5pm its pretty tough to not eat carbs for energy the job is heavy labor ... but i been thinking of running the warrior diet again i got amazing results ... thank you for your help... i should post a picture but again i bounce back and forth but my muscle mass has gained big time im lifting more now then when i was on juice

Try Carb cycling.. might help you get past your sticking point.