Dehydrated after drinking 2 and a half gallons of water daily

[Gred]

I weigh 333 pounds, 5'11", 41% body fat, taking .25 mg arimidex every 72 hours instead of eod due to strong moodswings and depression / anger it causes in me, also taking 400mg test cypionate weekly, cutting back down to 200mg weekly.

I've been drinking 2 and a half gallons of water a day and still during my in-body analysis its claiming that my Extracellular Water compared to Total Body Weight is low. The nurse keeps telling me I'm a bit dehydrated and my numbers are low every time I go in yet my urine is crystal clear.

Does anyone know what might be the cause of this?

Also, I do feel symptoms of dehydration if I stop drinking water for a few hours and am not constantly drinking it throughout the day. As a matter of fact, my urine goes from crystal clear to yellow again after just 2 hours of not drinking water.

I eat 200g of protein per day including isoflex whey protein. I blend a drink called The Purple People Cleaner (Mike Dolce's recipe), and drink that daily. I don't eat carbs at the moment as I try to keep my body in ketosis for now, I've been contemplating carb cycling in the future. I eat plenty of vegetables and the only fruit I eat is in my drink.

Most of my diet is paleo, and my workouts consist of 30 minutes of cardio daily on the elliptical + 1 hour of heavy lifting 6 days a week.

Thank you in advance.

[tarmyg]

Who put you on the Test?

[Back In Black]

Wtf are you cycling at that bodyfat?

[Bonaparte]

This has to be a joke...
But if not, please just stop everything, take some Nolva, and stick to eating less and going for walks until you're a reasonable size.

[Gred]

My natural testosterone levels at 23 years old when my doctor put me on test was 180, so thats what they put me on. They've prescribed me both 200mg cyp and 400mg worth of cyp weekly, I've been on testosterone for 2 years now. It's actually the only doctor in my area that I can go to.

It's not a joke, but I'd appreciate it if someone could answer my original question.

[Back In Black]

My natural testosterone levels at 23 years old when my doctor put me on test was 180, so thats what they put me on. They've prescribed me both 200mg cyp and 400mg worth of cyp weekly, I've been on testosterone for 2 years now. It's actually the only doctor in my area that I can go to. It's not a joke, but I'd appreciate it if someone could answer my original question.

If you have been prescribed 400mg test weekly for TRT then you need to travel to a different area to see a different doctor who won't harm you. Regardless of what you have been prescribed drop your TRT back down and your body fluid will likely balance itself out.

[Gred]

Thank you I appreciate it.

[KA24]

I've never heard any TRT dose being 400 mg/week. Man, many folks on here would love a referral LOL.

[thehor]

read the first sentence and bang. Why are you on gear on that extremely high bodyfat? saw that you are on trt at 400mg a week bang. Does your doctor even know how many mg a week trt dosage is like?

[DREPDOM]

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[RangerDanger830]

I am sorry, I have nothing positive to contribute to this post. I try not to comment unless I do but this is going to have to be the exception.

There is just no way this isn't a troll post. It just can't be serious. I refuse to believe it and am surprised someone hasn't said it earlier.

[Euroholic]

Show us a picture of the script please. I'm assuming pros are on high trt doses seeing as there is not a one dose suits all for hrt and doctors could get away with it but i doubt a 40%bf bloke would be prescribed that dose. Although maybe it is possible. doctors are stupid when it comes to hormones. i got prescribed 1mg a day of arimdex from my doctor when i got gyno years ago.

[Euroholic]

A unquenchable thirst is a sign of diabetes

[Back In Black]

Gred can you email me please. I'd like some info please.
I don't have enough posts to send you a private message.

Please remove your email from your post. If you have a question post it here, sounds awfully 'fishy' what you are asking.

[Chicagotarsier]

How long were you on 400?
How long on 200?
Have you done a CBC?

I have to give blood every 6 weeks off cycle or I start hitting the 57% range of RBC %. If you have not given any blood during your treatment have a CBC done immediately.

When I use TPhenyl or Test E I hold much much less water then I do on Test P.

Euro has the great point of diabetis. Do you trac your blood sugar and A1C?

[thisAngelBites]

He didn't say he is very thirsty - he said he's getting advice from his doctor's office that his bloods are showing him to be dehydrated even though he is drinking a lot.

2/3 of your body's water is in the cells - you probably have cellular dehydration. There are a lot of theories about this, but the cause is not completely known. Some people think being in a lot of electromagnetic fields cause this to occur due to changes in mitochondria that cause ions and water to be expelled from the cell. People are still trying to nail down the mechanisms at play, and the causes.

I'd stay on the ketosis promoting diet, keep drinking water, and do some reading about EMFs because you may be able to reduce those and see if it has any effect on you.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Just curious if the lack of carbs is causing him to hold less water.
Also, I believe that drinking too much water can flush out electrolytes and I believe that causes one to hold less water.

If he is drinking 2.5 gallons a day then he definitely isn't drinking too little.

[thisAngelBites]

Carbs cause you to store water in your liver and muscles, along with glycogen, but it won't be affecting the reabsorption of urea that causes elevated BUN levels that are one of the things they are probably looking at to determine whether he is hydrated. He is drinking enough, but I don't think it is too much given his bodyweight.

[NACH3]

Carbs cause you to store water in your liver and muscles, along with glycogen, but it won't be affecting the reabsorption of urea that causes elevated BUN levels that are one of the things they are probably looking at to determine whether he is hydrated. He is drinking enough, but I don't think it is too much given his bodyweight.

TAB... Amongst competitors - when they're carbing up it actually pulls water out(correct) so in that situation less carbs = more water?!

However, w/OPs body weight more carbs Will hold water, right! Just seeing if I comprehended your post - & I agree at his body weight it's fine drinking 2.5gl of water - not too much - especially w/the salt(very important electrolyte) in the food we consume each day

[thisAngelBites]

You know, I saw that comment and I wasn't sure how that is supposed to work. I always thought the carbs before competition were to do the opposite: make sure the muscles have as much glycogen in them as possible, which is stored with water, therefore making muscles look bigger. So I don't understand how it pulls water out, Maybe someone can explain this thinking to me.

[NACH3]

You know, I saw that comment and I wasn't sure how that is supposed to work. I always thought the carbs before competition were to do the opposite: make sure the muscles have as much glycogen in them as possible, which is stored with water, therefore making muscles look bigger. So I don't understand how it pulls water out, Maybe someone can explain this thinking to me.

I've read that it's the bodies natural way of pulling water out(water manipulation) by carbing up(and by doing so the carbs create glycogen stores to fill out making one look fuller)... Maybe someone will hop in and tell us why/how...

[magic32]

I'll let the fellas deal with your cycle issue, and just address your primary concern and why the doctor is 100% correct. You are and should be, based on your self-report dehydrated.

Firstly, hydration is more complex than water consumption, it has a lot to do with internal metabolic processes regulated by electrolytes. Water/fluid consumption and dehydration are inversely linked - used to describe two things that are related in such a way that as one becomes larger the other becomes smaller. In this case as water consumption increases (too far), hydration decreases. As with many such relationships there exists what is called the Law of Diminishing Returns, which though often used in economics, it is applicable to much of life. Essentially, it states that a thing can rise, or be good, or increase for only so long before it falls, becomes bad, or decreases. Think back to the bell-shaped curve, a good thing rises, plateaus, and falls. Eating satisfies you, but too much food hurts your stomach, mood, and may even cause vomiting. Two aspirin relieve pain and can stymie a heart attack, but too many aspirin can kill you. Water, and even oxygen are no different.

Water satisfies, nourishes, and removes toxins from the body. Too much water consumed too quickly (as you describe in your habits) depletes a bio-organism of necessary electrolytes: sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium. This condition is often called water intoxication, but is clinically known as hyponatremia. Electrolytes function in biological fluid to regulate many metabolic processes such as the flow of nutrients into and waste products out of cells, which includes the absorption and elimination of vitamins, minerals, etc.

By drinking too much water (2.5 gal), too rapidly (within a 24 hr period), you are too rapidly rinsing your regulating electrolytes/body salts out of your system and causing an internal imbalance which results in dehydration. In its broad terms dehydration is thought of as the mere lack of water, but more specifically it is the lack of vital nutrients suspended in fluid.

Moral: Drink less water.

[Chicagotarsier]

Carbs increase

Blood Sugar increases

Water retention increases via several paths over time. Why people with blood sugar issues are generally put on a diuretic. This guy is where I was...looks to be around 40% BF. Even with 0 carbs a person with that much fat has to have a blood sugar issue due to reduced insulin potency. He has more going on that a person like you at 10% BF

You know, I saw that comment and I wasn't sure how that is supposed to work. I always thought the carbs before competition were to do the opposite: make sure the muscles have as much glycogen in them as possible, which is stored with water, therefore making muscles look bigger. So I don't understand how it pulls water out, Maybe someone can explain this thinking to me.

[DREPDOM]

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[thisAngelBites]

I'll let the fellas deal with your cycle issue, and just address your primary concern and why the doctor is 100% correct. You are and should be, based on your self-report dehydrated.

Firstly, hydration is more complex than water consumption, it has a lot to do with internal metabolic processes regulated by electrolytes. Water/fluid consumption and dehydration are inversely linked - used to describe two things that are related in such a way that as one becomes larger the other becomes smaller. In this case as water consumption increases (too far), hydration decreases. As with many such relationships there exists what is called the Law of Diminishing Returns, which though often used in economics, it is applicable to much of life. Essentially, it states that a thing can rise, or be good, or increase for only so long before it falls, becomes bad, or decreases. Think back to the bell-shaped curve, a good thing rises, plateaus, and falls. Eating satisfies you, but too much food hurts your stomach, mood, and may even cause vomiting. Two aspirin relieve pain and can stymie a heart attack, but too many aspirin can kill you. Water, and even oxygen are no different.

Water satisfies, nourishes, and removes toxins from the body. Too much water consumed too quickly (as you describe in your habits) depletes a bio-organism of necessary electrolytes: sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium. This condition is often called water intoxication, but is clinically known as hyponatremia. Electrolytes function in biological fluid to regulate many metabolic processes such as the flow of nutrients into and waste products out of cells, which includes the absorption and elimination of vitamins, minerals, etc.

By drinking too much water (2.5 gal), too rapidly (within a 24 hr period), you are too rapidly rinsing your regulating electrolytes/body salts out of your system and causing an internal imbalance which results in dehydration. In its broad terms dehydration is thought of as the mere lack of water, but more specifically it is the lack of vital nutrients suspended in fluid.

Moral: Drink less water.

Did you see that the OP weighs 333 pounds? His optimal water intake is going to be more than the usual person.

Also, he seemed to be saying he was periodically seeing his doctor, and the nurse kept telling him he is dehydrated, and it sounds like he kept raising his water intake as a result of that.

OP - correct me if I am wrong, I think you are saying you have not been drinking this much all along, but that you have been increasing the amount you drink based on the comments at the doctor's office that you are dehydrated.

I find it difficult to believe that he went from not drinking enough and being dehydrated, to drinking too much, and still being dehydrated and never got to some place where his water consumption was fine and he was properly hydrated.

This is not the first time I have seen this, and I have been looking at the literature trying to understand what is happening in cases like this, and I am inclined to think that there is another metabolic problem causing the dehydration, and that it is not because you are drinking too much or too little.