Estrogen issues. Need cycle advice

[funnyman]

stats
32 yr old
5'10
200 lbs
20% bf
Training 10 years
3rd cycle


I have high levels of estrogen naturally. Think it happened from a lot of binge drinking in my early 20s that gave me this hormonal imbalance. Makes my physique appear soft as I hold water weight and much harder for me to lose weight.

Should I be taken an AI even not on cycle?


Now keeping this in mind, I'm looking for a safer cycle that doesn't make this issue worse. Eq and tren seem to pop up quite frequently but I have pretty bad anxiety which is steering me away from tren.

My other cycles were test only and test/var. 500mg of test obviously messed w my estrogen more even with my pharm grade arimidex. I would get crazy pounded heart off one set and feel like i was gonna pass out.So this was not a performance enhancer for me.

So I'm trying to keep my test as low as possible and running less converting aas higher.

So heres my questions

1. Which test would be best and at what doses for proper body function? (I was thinking prop but be nice get my injections less. So maybe sust?)

2. Run EQ at what doses?

3. Could I add DECCA or preferably any mild anabolic to gain size thats easy on the liver and estrogen?

4. Should I switch my AI or the dose and should I run it not on cycle also?


Im also currently on HGH at 3ius a day for a couple months
and
Just started gw50516


So possibly TEST/HGH/EQ/GW AND something to gain size while drying up. Also can add t3

Also Will i still need HCG on this cycle with test at low doses?



I love this place and thanks for any input

Rock on

[AR's King Silabolin]

Try something easy first.
U are already on HGH and cardarine. E2 problemes. If I wanted to cycle then i would start with trtdose and LGD. AI just on hand. BW after 4 weeks.
Should be no problems for liver or conversion or hct. It will give you bad cholestrol but a couple of reports on pubmed show steroidrelated cholestrollevels (guess its the same for SARMs) do not thicken the arteriewalls.

But, a cholestrolfriendly and healthy lifestyle should be "run" during the cycle.

[ScotchGuard02]

stats
32 yr old
5'10
200 lbs
20% bf
Training 10 years
3rd cycle


I have high levels of estrogen naturally. Think it happened from a lot of binge drinking in my early 20s that gave me this hormonal imbalance. Makes my physique appear soft as I hold water weight and much harder for me to lose weight.

Should I be taken an AI even not on cycle?


Now keeping this in mind, I'm looking for a safer cycle that doesn't make this issue worse. Eq and tren seem to pop up quite frequently but I have pretty bad anxiety which is steering me away from tren.

My other cycles were test only and test/var. 500mg of test obviously messed w my estrogen more even with my pharm grade arimidex. I would get crazy pounded heart off one set and feel like i was gonna pass out.So this was not a performance enhancer for me.

So I'm trying to keep my test as low as possible and running less converting aas higher.

So heres my questions

1. Which test would be best and at what doses for proper body function? (I was thinking prop but be nice get my injections less. So maybe sust?) You need to bring your body fat down to under 15%, closer to 10%. You're asking for problems if you have high E2 and susceptible to gyno. Test is Test so it really doesn't matter. For a first cycle, a longer ester like Test Enth is recommended.

2. Run EQ at what doses? Don't run EQ on first cycle. EQ is a weak steroid anyways. You have to take way too much to have any affect.

3. Could I add DECCA or preferably any mild anabolic to gain size thats easy on the liver and estrogen? Don't take Deca on the first cycle. You don't need it.

4. Should I switch my AI or the dose and should I run it not on cycle also? If you naturally have high E2, then start with .25mg/ed of adex.


Im also currently on HGH at 3ius a day for a couple months HGH for a couple of months will do very little for you. Save your money for the Test.
and
Just started gw50516


So possibly TEST/HGH/EQ/GW AND something to gain size while drying up. Also can add t3 Read this: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

Also Will i still need HCG on this cycle with test at low doses?



I love this place and thanks for any input

Rock on

From what I'm reading, you're not ready to cycle for a while. You should be have been training seriously in the gym for 3 to 5 years before you think about cycling steroids. Do a little more reading and workup a good eating plan to drop your body fat. That's probably the best start for you.

[funnyman]

From what I'm reading, you're not ready to cycle for a while. You should be have been training seriously in the gym for 3 to 5 years before you think about cycling steroids. Do a little more reading and workup a good eating plan to drop your body fat. That's probably the best start for you.

Where are u getting that that this is my first cycle? I clearly wrote Ive been training 10 years and have cycled a few times with test. Just gonna use less the next time around and add something with less estrogenic conversion. I have followed austinites plan to an absolute t. Im looking for some serious input with someone that actually read my post.

Thanks

[InternalFire]

Where are u getting that that this is my first cycle? I clearly wrote Ive been training 10 years and have cycled a few times with test. Just gonna use less the next time around and add something with less estrogenic conversion. I have followed austinites plan to an absolute t. Im looking for some serious input with someone that actually read my post. Thanks

Dont be ignorant newbie, dude gave you sound advice bellow every statement you wrote in BOLD, scroll up and review again

20% BF and any type of cycle is trainwreck pending,

Loose to as much as 15% bf or less and then tighten up your diet, post in our diet section we gotta see what you eat, steroids and peptides alone will not solve anything for you, be careful

[funnyman]

Dont be ignorant newbie, dude gave you sound advice bellow every statement you wrote in BOLD, scroll up and review again

Wsn't trying to be ignorant at all. I appreciate he went through each question BUT it was under the assumption I was, as you say, a NEWBIE. This is not the case as I've trained for 10 Years. Research everyday for years and am always learning more. I waited until my 30s to cycle bc of everything I have known about it. That being said, I respect this place but see a lot of people quickly to call someone a newb due to not having many posts. My situation is just unique and I haven't seen many people report the exact issues.

I have a great deal of respect for him and have seen him on these boards for years.

[funnyman]

Try something easy first.
U are already on HGH and cardarine. E2 problemes. If I wanted to cycle then i would start with trtdose and LGD. AI just on hand. BW after 4 weeks.
Should be no problems for liver or conversion or hct. It will give you bad cholestrol but a couple of reports on pubmed show steroidrelated cholestrollevels (guess its the same for SARMs) do not thicken the arteriewalls.

But, a cholestrolfriendly and healthy lifestyle should be "run" during the cycle.

I didn't know much about LGD but just researched it. Thanks for the reply. I may look into it a little more. Maybe run it with 5-600mgs of eq as well

[InternalFire]

That is cool but you saying that you have been training 10years still having 20% bf and excess E2 issues, plus no knowledge of what how works, and all within 10 years of wait time, doesnt sound too good yano? Especially my question arises how was your diet al these years so you are still 20% bf? Also, how many times and when did you do your full bloods last?

What type of diet/ macros/kcal a day you're doing?

Whats your training routine?

Had you have your full thyroid checkup done recently!

[funnyman]

Dont be ignorant newbie, dude gave you sound advice bellow every statement you wrote in BOLD, scroll up and review again

20% BF and any type of cycle is trainwreck pending,

Loose to as much as 15% bf or less and then tighten up your diet, post in our diet section we gotta see what you eat, steroids and peptides alone will not solve anything for you, be careful

I appreciate the edited response. The problem I'm having here when diet is on point I still can't drop below a certain point bc of high e levels and cortisol. My body holds onto fat like a nun holds a bible. Or a priest holds a kid? Im prob under 20 but still look soft

[InternalFire]

That is cool but you saying that you have been training 10years still having 20% bf and excess E2 issues, plus no knowledge of what how works, and all within 10 years of wait time, doesnt sound too good yano? Especially my question arises how was your diet al these years so you are still 20% bf? Also, how many times and when did you do your full bloods last? What type of diet/ macros/kcal a day you're doing? Whats your training routine? Had you have your full thyroid checkup done recently!

Bump

[funnyman]

That is cool but you saying that you have been training 10years still having 20% bf and excess E2 issues, plus no knowledge of what how works, and all within 10 years of wait time, doesnt sound too good yano? Especially my question arises how was your diet al these years so you are still 20% bf? Also, how many times and when did you do your full bloods last?

What type of diet/ macros/kcal a day you're doing?

Whats your training routine?

Had you have your full thyroid checkup done recently!

150-200g protein
100-200 g carbs
100g fat

2000-2500 cals a day (some days way less)

Train 3-4 times a week. Do the big 3 mixed with isolations

No full thyroid checkup getting bloods again next week before I start cycle

[InternalFire]

Ever tried keto diet? Your carb intake is humongous, considering you hold so much water/fat, if I eat that much carbs I blow up like sponge, keto diet made wonders for me. You do any fasted cardio on a daily? Simple sugars? Care to open new thread with your diet detailed breakdown?

[funnyman]

Ever tried keto diet? Your carb intake is humongous, considering you hold so much water/fat, if I eat that much carbs I blow up like sponge, keto diet made wonders for me. You do any fasted cardio on a daily? Simple sugars? Care to open new thread with your diet detailed breakdown?

Funny you mentioned that, Ive been looking into keto diet! I do fasted hiit cardio twice a week ideally. Mostly complex carbs. Only drink water but alcohol on saturdays. Cut out beer though bc thats an estro culprit. I may start a new thread for exact diet later. I'm just wondering if an AI would be needed even not on cycle sometimes or maybe a stronger one but don't wanna crash it too hard

[InternalFire]

you either diet and train strict and hard, live clean and get results accordingly or you run in circles chasing your dreams running away from your own shadows.

your bloods will tell alot I guess

keto is great tool to trim excess fat

but keep in mind - there are very few shortcuts to reaching your goals and those cheat/dirt weekends can compromise whole weeks work put in, so no wonder youre in trouble

[funnyman]

you either diet and train strict and hard, live clean and get results accordingly or you run in circles chasing your dreams running away from your own shadows.

your bloods will tell alot I guess

keto is great tool to trim excess fat

but keep in mind - there are very few shortcuts to reaching your goals and those cheat/dirt weekends can compromise whole weeks work put in, so no wonder youre in trouble

It' so true.

Whatever happened to work hard to play hard?

Maybe I'm better off doing blow and ecstasy like they did in the old days lol

[InternalFire]

whatever floats your boat man, you live your life not me, us , or anybody. if you really question that, you should stay away from steroids. but hey that's just my opinion, its worth to you as much as it cost you.

[InternalFire]

besides: "work hard - play hard" , still lives, I for example work hard and play hard, just my work is alot different and so are my plays. everyone sees it there own ways

[funnyman]

Haha no I hear. I was just messing around

[Cuz]

What exactly does your estrogen levels run just normal not on cycle? Diet macros little off imo, 100g fat and 150 protein? Find what your estrogen is and fix your diet you need to drop some fat before starting another cycle your results will be better

[Paul Mr Universe]

Your stacks are fine just run aroma den or let resolve to counteract estrogen

[Cuz]

Your stacks are fine just run aroma den or let resolve to counteract estrogen

What?

[InternalFire]

Your stacks are fine just run aroma den or let resolve to counteract estrogen

just pure shitardry over again, can you stop giving shitty advices reflecting you not giving shit about what anybody does?

[funnyman]

What exactly does your estrogen levels run just normal not on cycle? Diet macros little off imo, 100g fat and 150 protein? Find what your estrogen is and fix your diet you need to drop some fat before starting another cycle your results will be better

I was looking around for my last bloods. I'm gonna go next week and get new ones and will report back. I just know that for the last few years its been slightly to moderately high. And yea I definitely will tweak my diet a bit

[funnyman]

Guess I'll take this time to post my whole story. It might resonate with someone one day or someone might google it and can relate.
Or just ignore it if you don't care or read on and laugh at my misfortunes.

I guess I started lifting around 19. So its been 13 years which is even more sad. It was just a curl bar type stuff so i really don't count it. Bi's, tri's, and traps.

At 20, I bought a bench and home gym in college. During this time I started messing with NO explode and shit like that. At first it was great, I started filling out really nice. Even when I was called skinny in hs, I still never saw my abs. Not once in my life! Always felt skinny fat, but I was hitting what I remember thinking was a second puberty. My mommy told me I was filling into my man body.

By 21, we started binge drinking at the local brewery 3-4xs a week. Stopped training completely and my diet just blew! Mostly pizza and cheesesteaks. I would starve myself all day hungover and then binge eat. Apparently I had a problem with moderation. I do remember an older buddy saying to me a few years earlier, "wait to u see how fat u get after u turn 21". Well, it didnt help that the brewery we all went to served the most caloric dense beer u could possibly consume. THIS WASNT MILLER LITE.

At 22 I was having stretch marks and straight up moon face. Rest of my body was normal, but looking back at pictures, i looked pretty odd. Only held it in my stomach and face. Prob gained about 30 lbs. I remember going to a dermatologist about the stretch marks and the woman laughed at me. Fuck her. What nobody realized at the time is that I fucked up my hormones pretty bad with my lifestyle. She was basically like "you're fat get out of here" lol. Kinda proves that hormones are not fully understood or taught and that's similar today.

So for the next couple years 22-24, I decided to get back in the gym. I read a book by Vince Delmonte or whatever his name is and implemented an actual plan for the first time. In retrospect, it probably wasn't the best plan bc it was designed for hard gainers, but I digress. At least I was motivated and had a plan!
My diet was still absolute shit during this time and while i was lifting, I didn't know a thing about diet or do much cardio. So needless to say, didn't get the best results.

Everything changed by 25. I finally learned about diet and did way more cardio. Dropped 32lbs.
Breakfast would be egg whites, low fat cheese, on wheat. Half grapefruit and strawberry slender tea which was banging.
I learned about protein shakes and started drinking them in between meals so i would have 5 smaller meals a day.
I used a fat burner and eventually clen when I got down to a certain point.
The one thing I noticed is I could not get down under 187 even on clen. It was 1..8..7 on this mutherfukin gut!
That was as low as I could go without dangerously cutting my calories. Well why? Something still wasn't right but I just felt maybe that was as low as I could go and I still had belly fat. My body would not lose the belly fat!

Next few years, I looked good and didn't worry about it. Was getting laid, but now the quality of the cooter was going up!
It wasn't until my late 20s I started looking into hormones and lurking on this site. IT FINALLY CLICKED. I had a hormone imbalance. it all made sense! I went and got blood work and low and behold that was it.

Now at this point, I could've went to an endocrinologist, but my fear of needles and distrust for doctors led to a $2-$300 supplement addiction. (cause u can trust the supplement companies lmao) But I did start taking a great test boaster that lowered estro and it made a huge difference, but it only worked for 2 cycles. (Bottles) Then they changed it or something.

This all cumulated after I turned 30. My dick stopped working!!! my fuckin dick! Now I don't know if I can attribute this to my estro problems, the supplements I was taking, or if it was a mental thing bc of the tough break up I was going through. (Which ended when i found a BBC pic in her phone btw! If you don't know what BBC is, google it! lol)

I figured the only solution was to man up, do a cycle and a good pct should fix things. I was right. I followed Aust's planning and executing your first cycle and the problem was resolved. STEROIDS SAVED MY DICK. I owe steroids everything. lol I learned more about hormones and correcting problems then I could anywhere else. The endo is still on the list now as I came around on that, but some people around here could have degrees in this shit. And I would like to be able to gain muscle and definition while correcting issues. Which most doctors won't care about.

end rant

[Vash the Stampede]

Guess I'll take this time to post my whole story. It might resonate with someone one day or someone might google it and can relate.
Or just ignore it if you don't care or read on and laugh at my misfortunes.

I guess I started lifting around 19. So its been 13 years which is even more sad. It was just a curl bar type stuff so i really don't count it. Bi's, tri's, and traps.

At 20, I bought a bench and home gym in college. During this time I started messing with NO explode and shit like that. At first it was great, I started filling out really nice. Even when I was called skinny in hs, I still never saw my abs. Not once in my life! Always felt skinny fat, but I was hitting what I remember thinking was a second puberty. My mommy told me I was filling into my man body.

By 21, we started binge drinking at the local brewery 3-4xs a week. Stopped training completely and my diet just blew! Mostly pizza and cheesesteaks. I would starve myself all day hungover and then binge eat. Apparently I had a problem with moderation. I do remember an older buddy saying to me a few years earlier, "wait to u see how fat u get after u turn 21". Well, it didnt help that the brewery we all went to served the most caloric dense beer u could possibly consume. THIS WASNT MILLER LITE.

At 22 I was having stretch marks and straight up moon face. Rest of my body was normal, but looking back at pictures, i looked pretty odd. Only held it in my stomach and face. Prob gained about 30 lbs. I remember going to a dermatologist about the stretch marks and the woman laughed at me. Fuck her. What nobody realized at the time is that I fucked up my hormones pretty bad with my lifestyle. She was basically like "you're fat get out of here" lol. Kinda proves that hormones are not fully understood or taught and that's similar today.

So for the next couple years 22-24, I decided to get back in the gym. I read a book by Vince Delmonte or whatever his name is and implemented an actual plan for the first time. In retrospect, it probably wasn't the best plan bc it was designed for hard gainers, but I digress. At least I was motivated and had a plan!
My diet was still absolute shit during this time and while i was lifting, I didn't know a thing about diet or do much cardio. So needless to say, didn't get the best results.

Everything changed by 25. I finally learned about diet and did way more cardio. Dropped 32lbs.
Breakfast would be egg whites, low fat cheese, on wheat. Half grapefruit and strawberry slender tea which was banging.
I learned about protein shakes and started drinking them in between meals so i would have 5 smaller meals a day.
I used a fat burner and eventually clen when I got down to a certain point.
The one thing I noticed is I could not get down under 187 even on clen. It was 1..8..7 on this mutherfukin gut!
That was as low as I could go without dangerously cutting my calories. Well why? Something still wasn't right but I just felt maybe that was as low as I could go and I still had belly fat. My body would not lose the belly fat!

Next few years, I looked good and didn't worry about it. Was getting laid, but now the quality of the cooter was going up!
It wasn't until my late 20s I started looking into hormones and lurking on this site. IT FINALLY CLICKED. I had a hormone imbalance. it all made sense! I went and got blood work and low and behold that was it.

Now at this point, I could've went to an endocrinologist, but my fear of needles and distrust for doctors led to a $2-$300 supplement addiction. (cause u can trust the supplement companies lmao) But I did start taking a great test boaster that lowered estro and it made a huge difference, but it only worked for 2 cycles. (Bottles) Then they changed it or something.

This all cumulated after I turned 30. My dick stopped working!!! my fuckin dick! Now I don't know if I can attribute this to my estro problems, the supplements I was taking, or if it was a mental thing bc of the tough break up I was going through. (Which ended when i found a BBC pic in her phone btw! If you don't know what BBC is, google it! lol)

I figured the only solution was to man up, do a cycle and a good pct should fix things. I was right. I followed Aust's planning and executing your first cycle and the problem was resolved. STEROIDS SAVED MY DICK. I owe steroids everything. lol I learned more about hormones and correcting problems then I could anywhere else. The endo is still on the list now as I came around on that, but some people around here could have degrees in this shit. And I would like to be able to gain muscle and definition while correcting issues. Which most doctors won't care about.

end rant

Gotta admit, as sad as your story is, its kinda inspiring how you pulled your life out the shitter and got back on track.

Props to you for being pro active and getting your dick back to its former glory hahaha!

Please consult with the relevant medical professionals, as well as comprehensive blood test to see what's going on inside your body. You might have found something that fixes your issues in the short term, but a careful and considered approach must be taken with the long term in mind.

[funnyman]

Gotta admit, as sad as your story is, its kinda inspiring how you pulled your life out the shitter and got back on track.

Props to you for being pro active and getting your dick back to its former glory hahaha!

Please consult with the relevant medical professionals, as well as comprehensive blood test to see what's going on inside your body. You might have found something that fixes your issues in the short term, but a careful and considered approach must be taken with the long term in mind.

Thanks buddy! Life is much better now lol.

And yeah I agree gonna see how these bloods turn out. Idk what the doc has me set for but I specific asked for test and estrogen again in which he obliged but doesn't get why I always ask

[Mr.BB]

Can you post your bloodwork showing the high E2?

[funnyman]

Can you post your bloodwork showing the high E2?

Yep. As soon as I get the new ones, dat be da plan