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    Steroid cycle - libido help

    I've been on TRT for years. I've never had an issue with libido during that time. I am now on a cycle. I am taking 600mg Primo and 750mg Test Cyp per week. About 3 weeks into the cycle I noticed that I wasn't able to ejaculate. My erections are just fine but I cannot finish. I've been given advice to cut back on my Anastrozole and then to add more Anastrozole in. I've tried both. I had lab work done after my 3rd week and everything was fine. My prolactin and estradiol were both normal and my test was at 3004.

    There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this. Sometimes I can finish and many other times I can't. Any ideas or advice? I am getting very depressed about it.

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    Whats was you progesterone and DHT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Whats was you progesterone and DHT?
    They were not part of this lab work.

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    Try adding a bit of HCG or supplementing with pregnenolone. That will help balance the other hormones.

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    Try adding a bit of HCG or supplementing with pregnenolone. That will help balance the other hormones.
    I am planning on getting some HCG. What dosage would you recommend? I am wondering if I need to do something different with my Anastrozole as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musldman View Post
    I am planning on getting some HCG. What dosage would you recommend? I am wondering if I need to do something different with my Anastrozole as well?
    The testes do release a lot of E2 if overstimulated. Best way around this is going for low dose (100IU) HCG subcutaneously, ED .

    Or just 250IU two times a week if you don't fancy pinning every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    The testes do release a lot of E2 if overstimulated. Best way around this is going for low dose (100IU) HCG subcutaneously, ED .

    Or just 250IU two times a week if you don't fancy pinning every day.
    great. for the rest of the cycle? I am just start week 7 of a planned 16 week cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musldman View Post
    I've been on TRT for years. I've never had an issue with libido during that time. I am now on a cycle. I am taking 600mg Primo and 750mg Test Cyp per week. About 3 weeks into the cycle I noticed that I wasn't able to ejaculate. My erections are just fine but I cannot finish. I've been given advice to cut back on my Anastrozole and then to add more Anastrozole in. I've tried both. I had lab work done after my 3rd week and everything was fine. My prolactin and estradiol were both normal and my test was at 3004.

    There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this. Sometimes I can finish and many other times I can't. Any ideas or advice? I am getting very depressed about it.
    Ive had this before. My theory is its the eostrogen. Once it reaches a certain threshold, for some of us, it knocks a switch somewhere within the HPTA. I couldnt climax for months. Now i cycle with a small dose of HCG and arimidex and ive not had a repeat.

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    You should be on HCG all the time. Not just during your cycle. It should be part of your TRT protocol.
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    I've noticed difficulty in climaxing myself at times, usually don't mind it as it's fun to use some time. But yeah, it can be an issue sometimes.

    What I've noticed is that lets say I inject 100mg of mast p the same day, or if it's the day after, (or even test p) then it's easier again for a short time.
    Arimidex can help; but It can also totally fuck it up if doses wrong.

    My take on it is that E2 and androgens impact this a lot.
    If E2 is a little high you can temporarily fix it by upping the androgens.
    So it also has to do with the ratio of androgens to estrogens.

    Now, I'm not saying it's wise to inject more AAS every time your about to have sex, but rather that one needs to get these values dialed in.
    This is difficult enough on TRT when test dose is fixed, on cycle it can be a lot harder and during cycle some proviron could probably be used without adding much risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    I've noticed difficulty in climaxing myself at times, usually don't mind it as it's fun to use some time. But yeah, it can be an issue sometimes.

    What I've noticed is that lets say I inject 100mg of mast p the same day, or if it's the day after, (or even test p) then it's easier again for a short time.
    Arimidex can help; but It can also totally fuck it up if doses wrong.

    My take on it is that E2 and androgens impact this a lot.
    If E2 is a little high you can temporarily fix it by upping the androgens.
    So it also has to do with the ratio of androgens to estrogens.

    Now, I'm not saying it's wise to inject more AAS every time your about to have sex, but rather that one needs to get these values dialed in.
    This is difficult enough on TRT when test dose is fixed, on cycle it can be a lot harder and during cycle some proviron could probably be used without adding much risk.
    Yeah I've one back and forth on the androgens. I've been without any for a couple of weeks. Today I took .5mg Anastrozole to see if that will help. I'm just very confused about their use I guess. Should I be using arimidex rather than anastrozole?

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    You need to match the use of arimidex to your use of aromatizible androgens like test.
    If you use 600mg test pr week you'll need more AI than if you use 300mg pr week. But people are different as to how much they convert to E2 also,
    So what it right for me isn't necessarily for you.

    Ask around on the TRT section and people will help you get your AI dose right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    You need to match the use of arimidex to your use of aromatizible androgens like test.
    If you use 600mg test pr week you'll need more AI than if you use 300mg pr week. But people are different as to how much they convert to E2 also,
    So what it right for me isn't necessarily for you.

    Ask around on the TRT section and people will help you get your AI dose right.
    I am taking 750mg test and 600mg Primo per week. Any thoughts on AI?

    Rob

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    Arimidex = anastrozole
    Brand name : compound name.

    Using an AI without using test isn't smart IMO.
    Yes it will raise T production, but it will crash your E2.

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    Go ahead and try what was recommended. The condition you're having is anorgasmia, the inability to finish. I've had this condition for a while now. I tried adex, nolva (pct), HCG and more Test (if little is good more must be better, right? LOL) I can get and maintain an erection for a long time but I just can't finish. At this point, I've begun to accept this condition as age appropriate. If you get good results, let me know. I'll give it another go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Go ahead and try what was recommended. The condition you're having is anorgasmia, the inability to finish. I've had this condition for a while now. I tried adex, nolva (pct), HCG and more Test (if little is good more must be better, right? LOL) I can get and maintain an erection for a long time but I just can't finish. At this point, I've begun to accept this condition as age appropriate. If you get good results, let me know. I'll give it another go.
    You can have anorgasmia despite being able to ejaculate. Lack of the latter is referred to as anejaculation.

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    I thought that this was a symptom of high prolactin. I may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongblood View Post
    I thought that this was a symptom of high prolactin. I may be wrong.
    My prolactin level was normal as was my estradiol

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    If the ladies become insecure about it you just say you practice an obscure sense of tantra sex.

    But if anybody find a solution except increasing androgens the let me know.
    I've also noticed small doses of Ritalin can help, but be careful or you'll end up having a day of ED and I think we'll all agree that's way worse.

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    If your levels are fine just continue whatever your doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    If your levels are fine just continue whatever your doing.
    I think I am going to try to add in some hcg and see if that helps

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    The hCG may increase E2 a little.
    But just take it as it comes, hCG makes me feel better,
    Yet it does increase the need for an AI when on enough test for me as well.

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