Best alternatives to winstrol? (Same hardened effect but saves the joints)

[Last_Ride]

This post is mainly for curiosity purposes. I am a big fan of winstrol (though have used it only once for the last 6wks of an anavar+test e cycle) because of the hardened, dry look it provides towards the end a cycle but it really does a number on ur joints, doesn't it?

I had used glucosamine, chondroitin, fish oil and it still hurt (had thought of using 250mg of deca too but the reviews are mixed on whether it actually helps. Hence didn't risk adding another compound).

Hence wanted to ask the knowledgeable members here if there are alternatives to winstrol? Compounds that have the same effect but less sides and safer?

[Last_Ride]

No one???

[charger69]

Well, for competition, nothing takes the place of Winnie. If you are not competing then that is a different story.
Was your Winnie injectable or oral? How much cardio are you doing?
When I was doing a lot of LISS cardio, my joints hurt (with injectable). Glucosamine with chroninitin did the trick at that time.


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[Last_Ride]

Well, for competition, nothing takes the place of Winnie. If you are not competing then that is a different story.
Was your Winnie injectable or oral? How much cardio are you doing?
When I was doing a lot of LISS cardio, my joints hurt (with injectable). Glucosamine with chroninitin did the trick at that time.


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Thanks for replying. Mine was oral. I was doing 30mins (treadmill/arc trainer) followed by 30mins of HIIT for abs and core strengthening, 4 times a week.

I am not competing, just a normal software developer with a soft spot for a ripped physique. So, in ur experience, are there any alternatives to winnie for a normal guy who wants to look shredded, just not bodybuilder shredded??

[Couchlockd]

Masterone prop. Maybe not wait as quick, but no joint pain, and you'll be hard.

Primobolan ace (oral) or enanthate (inject) also little slow, but same if not better lean muscle quality

Winny seems to be a quick finisher for stage prep.

Dht I'm general have similar effects

[charger69]

Thanks for replying. Mine was oral. I was doing 30mins (treadmill/arc trainer) followed by 30mins of HIIT for abs and core strengthening, 4 times a week.

I am not competing, just a normal software developer with a soft spot for a ripped physique. So, in ur experience, are there any alternatives to winnie for a normal guy who wants to look shredded, just not bodybuilder shredded??

I do not know your history so I am not advising using it, but there is anavar.
I like the look from mast and tren


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[Last_Ride]

I do not know your history so I am not advising using it, but there is anavar.
I like the look from mast and tren


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I did take Anavar for 7 weeks & then finished the cycle off with 5 weeks of Winstrol (Test E was the base for the entire 12 week cycle). Anavar leaned me out considerably (with no sides) while winstrol gave me that dry look (screwing with my joints in the process).

From what I have read so far, Trenbolone has some VERY serious side-effects, doesn't it? Since I am just a novice (2 cycles under my belt), not too keen on severely harsh compounds like Tren, Anadrol etc.

[charger69]

I did take Anavar for 7 weeks & then finished the cycle off with 5 weeks of Winstrol (Test E was the base for the entire 12 week cycle). Anavar leaned me out considerably (with no sides) while winstrol gave me that dry look (screwing with my joints in the process).

From what I have read so far, Trenbolone has some VERY serious side-effects, doesn't it? Since I am just a novice (2 cycles under my belt), not too keen on severely harsh compounds like Tren, Anadrol etc.

Do not take tren yet then.
I do know people that take deca for the joints while on Winnie.
I think for your purposes, mast is the go to. You will love it and its sides are mild. You really see results below 10% bf however you can use it above.


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[Dazhy]

masteron + proviron+var high doses 100mg ed or epistane 40ed

[Bonaparte]

Masteron. If you were competing, I'd mention halotestin as well.

[Last_Ride]

Masteron. If you were competing, I'd mention halotestin as well.

I heard Masteron is only effective below 10% BF. I am at 13%, so will it be any good?