SubQ vs IM. I know this is widely debated

[Krb367]

Got this across my email today.. has anyone else ever came across any real research besides strictly anecdotal or preference?

https://www.t-nation.com/living/tip-..._dose-20-12-27

I’ve been thinking of switching to subQ for TRT. The article suggests 25 gauge lol which seems a bit much for belly fat.. and if I read right, their math is also wrong.. but what I put together (which I think most of us, myself included, already split our TRT in to 2 pins weekly) is to split your 100/200mg in to 2 50/100mg subQ injections. Wouldn’t half a ml subQ be a bit much as well?

[Gallowmere]

The article: Depends on the person. My total and free test drop by 30-50% when using subq, most other markers are unaffected.

Try both, assess how it affects your via bloods after a month or two, go from there.

The volume: 0.5 worked perfectly fine for me subq.

[Krb367]

The article: Depends on the person. My total and free test drop by 30-50% when using subq, most other markers are unaffected.

Try both, assess how it affects your via bloods after a month or two, go from there.

The volume: 0.5 worked perfectly fine for me subq.

I think my main reason, asides from any possible health benefits of switching to subQ, is I find myself running in to scar tissue more often now. Everyone knows how much of a pain in the ass injecting in to it is..

Maybe I should man up and try the quads. I save my delts for blasting. Did you use an insulin needle for the subQ?

[Gallowmere]

I think my main reason, asides from any possible health benefits of switching to subQ, is I find myself running in to scar tissue more often now. Everyone knows how much of a pain in the ass injecting in to it is..

Maybe I should man up and try the quads. I save my delts for blasting. Did you use an insulin needle for the subQ?

Nah, I just kept using the same 25g 1” that I had for IM, I just didn’t bury it, obviously.

As for the scar tissue: that’s why I have 14 different sites that I use (2 on each thigh, ventroglutes, side delts, front delts, biceps, and pecs).

[Patton222]

SubQ can be anywhere there is fat, so injection sites are literally endless. I personally don’t like belly fat I’ve been using outer thighs mostly. Also as stated 0.5 ml is fine as far as the dose goes that is what I do, don’t hold me to it but I think the max amount is around 1ml possibly even 2ml depending on the medication. For anything over 0.7ml of test I would use IM. I draw with 18’s and inject with a 25g 5/8 inch needle, the 25 is perfect as it’s more difficult to push fast which is where I think a lot of the subq scar tissue issues come from. I’d like to switch back to IM to see if the numbers are actually different, I do think I had more mass when I was doing IM but there were a few other variables at that time also. IMO subq is a lot more convenient and your chances of hitting a vein are very slim.

[Painjunky]

I’ve been using a 29 gauge 1/2” insulin syringe. IM In the shoulder and lower butt cheek. Easy and works perfectly.