FINALLY! I hit my quads today! I was never able to do that before for some reason I was always sitting down and as soon as the pin went in I was hittin nerves or veins and was diein of pain, so today I did it standin up, and it felt great! I didnt even realize the pin was in cuz it didnt hurt at all. And no leakage at all cuz its a bigger muscle. My delts and glutes usually leak out because I am using Virormones with that newer oil that has a tendancy to leak. So as you can see Im real happy. Anyone have any idea why it hurts to do it sitting down? my guess would be that the chair pushing up displaces some stuff, or maybe im just a weirdo, what do u guys think?