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    need a little pick me up

    hey bros

    ive been trying to lose fat this summer...its going good so far...but it seems that im leaning down in my back and arms a lot... and legs are more defined...but my stomach doesnt seem to really be taking to it...just getting kinda discouraged a bit and a little tired ya know?

    i do my cardio 45 minutes morning at 65% MHR and all that...diet is fine...


    any extra tips or anything you guys found would be great

    ive posted my diet and pics in the forums...ive made improvements....and its going well but i just wish it was faster sometimes

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    Try a ECA stack, you can still find Ephedrine really easy.

    Also, those problem areas are going to pretty much be the last things to go. Stick with it and find yourself ways to keep motivated. Put a picture some where that motivates you. SOme guys put up body building guys flexing, not me though. I have to put a picture of a fine ass bitch with a nice thick juicy ass ready for a slapping. WOmen are what motivate me for this kind of stuff.

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    Jus tbe consistant and it'll all work out!

    Walkin down the beach with abs is gonna be sweet huh?

    And like J said, ECA is a must....

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    ya im doing the eca thing

    helps a ton with AM cardio...i honestly dont know what the heck i would do without it...haha

    thanks bros...i know its all consistency...ill get there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimo
    but it seems that im leaning down in my back and arms a lot... and legs are more defined...but my stomach doesnt seem to really be taking to it...
    Welcome to the club. When I "cut", I just get "skinny" everywhere except my stomach...which remains, what I like to call, skinny fat (i.e. its small, but flabby). Dunno what to tell ya, its a bane of mine also.

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    ya i hear ya there, well you lok pretty cut in that pic

    im not near that point yet right now, still working on the overall package of leaness haha

    i think it will all come together in the end...just gotta keep putting in the time

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    Keep your head up, no matter what just realise that you are doing everything the right way (considering your diet is in check of course) and of course the problem areas are the last to go and i should know as like many bros on here my stomach is my trouble area and is the last thing to go but i am leaving it no chocie as it has to go.


    Keep going bro you can do it.....

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    i know how it feels bro, keep it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    leaving it no chocie as it has to go.
    Well said!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    Keep your head up, no matter what just realise that you are doing everything the right way (considering your diet is in check of course) and of course the problem areas are the last to go and i should know as like many bros on here my stomach is my trouble area and is the last thing to go but i am leaving it no chocie as it has to go.


    Keep going bro you can do it.....
    excellent point

    i had a wicked workout today and on sunday i got two compliments from ppl saying that i was looking leaner and bigger, so im doing something right.

    and yesterday one of the boys who works at the gym said i was leaning down fast and it was scaring him...so i think its in my head...

    you know how it is...you just need stuff like that said every now and then eh?

    thanks for the support!

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    a mans gut is the hardest place to loose fat. You will loose it everywhere else first. stay with it bro and hang in there, you will get it. ECA will definitley give you that boost you need bro! Good luck

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    i read this awhile ago, and read it every now and then. Its a good motivator for me. Wish I could say it was mine, but I got it off of bb.com, sorry I don't know the exact source. Its a long read, but a real good one..

    "So, what are you doing for a living these days?" Bob asked me. We're sitting on the couch at one of those tedious holiday get-togethers, you know, the ones where you're supposed to be nice to family members you never see except during major holidays and funerals. I think Bob is my wife's brother-in-law's second cousin or something.

    "I'm the assistant editor and a writer for Testosterone magazine," I say. Bob looks at me with a blank expression on his face, as if I'd just told him I sell handmade testicle warmers beside the freeway and was looking to open franchises across the nation.

    "It's a bodybuilding magazine," I say.

    Blank expression. Deer caught in the headlights. Ronnie Coleman doing trigonometry.

    "Oh," Bob finally says, "I heard you were, like, one of those bodybuilder guys or something. So, what's that like, you know, working out every day and stuff? I just don't have time to lift weights all day, but I have been meaning to get rid of this beer belly." He takes another sip of beer. "What do you suggest?" Sip.

    At first I was a little offended. I wanted to grab him up and say, "You can't tell I'm a bodybuilder?! Look at my ass! Now, if that's not a nice round squat-built piece of sirloin, I don't know what is! You think that comes naturally? I can crack walnuts with this puppy! Wanna see? Huh, punk? Do ya? Do ya?"

    Then I realize this just might cause a scene and could cost me several Christmas presents. I was planning on returning any presents I got and using the money to buy a power rack, so I didn't want to jeopardize this gift getting opportunity. I also realized that old Bob probably had a certain preconceived image of a bodybuilder and I just didn't fit that image. I'm not gorilla huge; I weigh about 205 at 5'11" right now. (When I first started lifting I was a pudgy 159, so that's not too shabby.) Also, I wasn't wearing clown pants, a fluorescent string tank top, a hanky on my head and one of those little fanny packs. And isn't that what real bodybuilders are supposed to wear?

    Bob continued to sit there drinking his Natural Light, smoking a cigarette and waiting for an answer, oblivious to the fact that he'd come this close to seeing some serious walnut- crunching ass power. I tried to figure out how I could explain to the average guy what the typical T-Man does and why he does it. How could I get him to understand what it is we do, how we feel, how we live? So I took a deep breath and told him something like this:

    "Well, Bob, I guess you could use the term bodybuilder if you really need a label for what it is we do. Most of us actually don't stand on stage and compete, though. We lift weights and manipulate our diets so that we'll look good naked. Sure, it's healthy too, and we'll probably live a longer and more productive life than the average guy, but mostly it's about the naked thing. Truthfully, it goes beyond even that.

    "Let's be honest here. We do it because of people like you, Bob. We look at you sitting there with your gut hanging over your belt and we watch you grunt and groan just getting out of a chair. Guys like you are our inspiration, Bob. You're better than Anthony Robbins, Bill Phillips, Deepak Chopra, and Zig ****ing Ziglar all wrapped up into one. We love it when guys like you talk about not having time to exercise. Every time we see you munching on a bag of potato chips, you inspire us. You're my shot in the arm, Bob, my living and breathing wake-up call, my own personal success coach.

    "You want to know what it is we do? We overcome. We're too busy to train, too, but we overcome. We're too busy to prepare healthy meals and eat them five or six times a day, but we overcome. We can't always afford supplements, our genetics aren't perfect, and we don't always feel like going to the gym. Some of us used to be just like you, Bob, but guess what? We've overcome.

    "We like to watch 'normal' people like you tell us about how they can't get in shape. We smile and nod sympathetically like we feel your pain, but actually, we're thinking that you're a pathetic piece of **** that needs to grow a spine and join a gym. You smile sheepishly and say that you just can't stay motivated and just can't stand that feeling of being sore. (For some reason you think that admitting your weaknesses somehow justifies them.) We listen to you ***** and moan. We watch you look for the easy way out. Because of people like you, Bob, we never miss a workout.

    "You ask us for advice about diet and training and usually we politely offer some guidance, but deep inside we know you won't take our advice. You know that too. We smile and say, 'Hope that helps. Good luck,' but actually we're thinking, 'Boy, it would suck to be you.' We know that 99% of people won't listen to us. Once they hear that it takes hard work, sacrifice and discipline, they stop listening and tune us out.

    "We know they wanted us to say that building a great body is easy, but it just isn't. This did not take five minutes a day on a TorsoTrack. We did not get this way in 12 short weeks using a Bowflex and the Suzanne Somers' 'Get Skinny' diet. A good body does not cost five easy payments of $39.95.

    "We like it that while you're eating a candy bar and drinking Mountain Dew, we're sucking down a protein shake. You see, that makes it taste even better to us. While you're asleep we're either getting up early or staying up late, hitting the iron, pushing ourselves, learning, succeeding and failing and rising above the norm with every rep. Can you feel that, Bob? Can you relate? No? Good. This wouldn't be half as fun if you could.

    "We do it because we absolutely and totally get off on it. We do it because people like you, Bob, either can't or won't. We do it because what we do in the gym transfers over into the rest of our lives and changes us, physically, mentally, maybe even spiritually. We do it because it beats watching fishing and golf on TV. By the way, do you know what it's like to turn the head of a beautiful woman because of the way you're built? It feels good, Bob. Damned good.

    "When we're in the gym, we're in this indescribable euphoria zone. It's a feeling of being on, of being completely alive and aware. If you haven't been there, then it's like trying to describe color to a person who's been blind since birth. Within this haze of pleasure and pain, there's knowledge and power, self-discipline and self-reliance. If you do it long enough, Bob, there's even enlightenment. Sometimes, the answers to questions you didn't even know you had are sitting there on those rubber mats, wrapped up in a neat package of iron plates and bars.

    "Want to lose that beer belly, Bob? I have a nutty idea. Put down the ****ing beer. I'll tell you what, Bob. Christmas morning I'm getting up real early and hitting the iron. I want to watch my daughter open her presents and spend the whole day with her, so this is the only time I have to train. The gym will be closed, so I'm going out in my garage to workout. You be at my house at six in the morning, okay? I'll be glad to help you get started on a weight training program. It'll be colder than Hillary Clinton's coochie in there, so dress warm.

    "But let me tell you something, Bob. If you don't show up, don't bother asking me again. And don't you ever sit there and let me hear you ***** about your beer belly again. This is your chance, your big opportunity to break out of that rut. If you don't show up, Bob, you've learned a very important lesson about yourself, haven't you? You won't like that lesson.

    "You won't like that feeling in the pit of your stomach either or that taste in your mouth. It will taste worse than defeat, Bob. Defeat tastes pretty goddamned nasty, but what you'll be experiencing will be much worse. It will be the knowledge that you're weak, mentally and physically. What's worse is that you'll have accepted that feeling. The feeling will always be with you. In the happiest moments of your life, it'll be there, lying under the surface like a malignant tumor. Ignore it at your own peril, Bob.

    "Don't look at me like that either. This just may be the best Christmas present you'll get this year. Next Christmas, Bob, when I see you again, I'm going to be a little bigger, a little stronger, and a little leaner. What will you be? Will you still be making excuses? This is a gift, Bob, from me to you. I'm giving you the chance to look fate in those pretty eyes of hers and say, 'Step off, *****. This is my party and you're not invited.' What do you say, Bob? Monday, Christmas morning, 6am, my house. The ball's in your court."

    Okay, so maybe that's not the exact words I used with Bob, but you get the picture. Will Bob show up Monday? I don't know, but I kind of doubt it. In fact, Bob will probably take me off his Christmas card list. He probably thinks I've got "too much Testosterone," like that's a bad thing. I think Bob is just stuck in a rut, and as the saying goes, the only difference between a rut and a grave is depth.

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