04-08-2004, 04:28 PM #1
Bush Administration Censors Howard Stern
Looks like the Bush Administration is clamping down on its radio critics, Howard Stern being first . . .
Clear Channel Drops Stern on FCC Threat
By JONATHAN D. SALANT, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Federal regulators Thursday proposed $495,000 in indecency fines against Clear Channel Communications for broadcasts by Howard Stern, prompting the nation's largest radio chain to drop the country's best-known shock jock.
Clear Channel suspended Stern in February from its six stations that carry his program, which regularly features graphic sexual discussion and humor. It decided to make the move permanent after the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) cited the chain for 18 alleged violations from Stern's April 9, 2003, show.
"Mr. Stern's show has created a great liability for us and other broadcasters who air it," said John Hogan, president of Clear Channel Radio. "The Congress and the FCC (news - web sites) are even beginning to look at revoking station licenses. That's a risk we're just not willing to take."
In a statement posted on his Web site, Stern said he was not surprised by the fine. He characterized it as furtherance of a "witch hunt" against him by the Bush administration.
"It is pretty shocking that governmental interference into our rights and free speech takes place in the U.S.," he said. "It's hard to reconcile this with the 'land of the free' and the 'home of the brave.'"
The FCC investigation was prompted by a listener in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., who complained about a Stern program that included discussion of sex accompanied by flatulence sounds.
Federal law bars radio stations and over-the-air television channels from airing references to sexual and excretory functions between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., when children may be tuning in. The rules do not apply to cable and satellite channels or satellite radio.
The FCC imposed the maximum fine of $27,500 for each of 18 violations on six Clear Channel stations: WBGG in Fort Lauderdale; WTKS-FM in Cocoa Beach, Fla.; WTFX-FM in Louisville, Ky.; KIOZ in San Diego; WNVE in Honeoye Falls, N.Y.; and WSDS-FM in Pittsburgh.
The FCC fined each station for two specific incidents during a single program, the first time the commission has done so. Previously, the FCC levied fines for an entire program, no matter how many different indecent utterances occurred.
Commissioner Michael Copps, who usually dissents from indecency decisions because he says the penalties aren't strong enough, was part of a unanimous commission this time.
"I have long advocated that the commission use all of the tools it has to tackle indecency on the public airwaves," he said. "Today's decision is a step forward towards imposing meaningful fines."
Last month, the FCC proposed fining Stern's employer, Infinity Broadcasting, $27,500 for a Stern show broadcast July 26, 2001, on WKRK-FM in Detroit. The show featured discussions about sexual practices and techniques.
Infinity paid $1.7 million in 1995 to settle various violations by Stern. The Center for Public Integrity, a watchdog group, said fines against Stern accounted for almost half of the $4 million in penalties proposed by the FCC since 1990.
Stern has charged on the air that he's being punished for his criticism of President Bush (news - web sites). Clear Channel's political action committee and its employees have given $265,800 to Republicans for the 2004 election, more than any other broadcaster, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan research group.
"You've got to vote Bush out to send a message as a Howard Stern fan," Stern said during one recent broadcast. "There's a cultural war going on. The religious right is winning. We're losing."
A conservative advocacy group, the Parents Television Council, applauded the FCC's decision.
"Stern is a repeat offender of the most commonsense decency standards and we welcome the news that the FCC is moving to combat these patently indecent shows," said L. Brent Bozell III, the group's president.
04-08-2004, 04:35 PM #2
perfect i dont think i heard one good thing come out of that dudes mouth... not too sure how i feel about the governments increased role in censorship though. kinda scary
04-08-2004, 04:40 PM #3
I don't listen to Stern, I think he is a moron...
But the government censoring him now THATS really scary. Whats next? Book burnings?
04-08-2004, 04:40 PM #4
Freedom of Speech, REMEMBER THAT !!!!!!
04-08-2004, 04:53 PM #5Originally Posted by 5211969
theres a difference between freedom of speech and channeling your trash talk to millions of people
04-08-2004, 04:55 PM #6Originally Posted by floyd_turbo
04-08-2004, 04:57 PM #7Originally Posted by decadbal
04-08-2004, 04:59 PM #8
With 4 more years of bush,we'll have to ask permission to piss!!!!
04-08-2004, 05:01 PM #9
I agree but.....Originally Posted by floyd_turbo
04-08-2004, 05:03 PM #10Originally Posted by floyd_turbo
04-08-2004, 05:08 PM #11Originally Posted by floyd_turbo
Yah, but if the Bush Administration is putting pressure on broadcasters because of the content of his show (and Stern has been growing more and more anti-Bush lately) then it becomes a bigger problem than just a potty-mouth DJ. It becomes a situation where the White House controls what people can and cannnot say on the public airwaves.
04-08-2004, 05:13 PM #12Originally Posted by Tock
04-08-2004, 05:19 PM #13Originally Posted by Da Bull
04-08-2004, 05:25 PM #14Originally Posted by Tock
04-08-2004, 05:35 PM #15Originally Posted by decadbal
04-08-2004, 05:44 PM #16Originally Posted by symatech
04-08-2004, 06:15 PM #17
america is built on certain ideals, i.e. the constitution. In the constitution you will find a few amendments which are known to most as the Bill of Rights. I think free speech speaks for itself. As he has cut this show from the air, he is depriving american citizens of the right to speak freely. even if he doesnt like what howard has to say.
Now, lets elaborate further. Right to a trial by jury. Well, with the patriot act in place, you dont have that right anymore. you can be held indefinately without being formally charged.
In the wake of 9/11, this country has seen the epitome of 'lead by fear.' and it has come soley from this administration. It seems to me that the only person scared here is george. and he's not worrying about the lives of americans....he's worried about a second term.
America has always been about international diplomacy...until now. Bush is leading this country down a **** hole. and he would have you follow him.
why is he unamerican? because he is taking away our liberty.
why is he out of control? well, the censorship is one thing, invading a foreign country for no reason is another, LEAVING OUR TROOPS OUT TO DRY is another. They are fighting his families war, and the thanks they get is cut spending and not enough manpower on the gorund.
Bush is getting americans killed....all in the name of safety. SAFETY? bush is unsafe. i am ashamed for the number of times i even shook his hand.
04-08-2004, 06:35 PM #18
fine u hate him, dont listen. i listen sometimes, i think the show used to be a lot more funny before stuttering john and jackie martling left. arrtie lang just sucks and is corny with his stupid jokes and forced laughter. anyway its a funny show, its not serious, its to make people laugh and have something to listen to while going to their crappy job. stern supported bush about the war and all until he started censoring radio , cuz thats his livelyhood.
04-08-2004, 06:42 PM #19
i personally think sterns show is the funniest, if you dont like it dont listen. its as simple as that.
04-08-2004, 07:00 PM #20Originally Posted by jcstomper
But it would seem your government has different ideas...
04-08-2004, 07:31 PM #21
I never cared for Stern. But trying to make connections to Bush and Stern is a joke. So now Bush is in direct relation to Howard Stern being fined??? BULLSHlT. It has to do with that wacko JANET JACKSON and the halftime show.... Ever since then, the FCC has been cracking down on ALL radio stations. Not just Howard Stern. TOCK, that was pretty lame that you make it out to be BUSH cracking down on Stern.
Stern has gotten away with SO MUCH r rated stuff on morning radio due to his popularity. It has NOTHING to do with FREE SPEECH. It has to do with decent radio broadcasting.
Driving your kid to school and having him listen on the radio to TWO PORN STARS describe how to find the G and C spot for her climax is FAR BEYOND FREE SPEECH witch hunts.....
04-08-2004, 07:33 PM #22Originally Posted by Tock
04-08-2004, 07:37 PM #23
I don't listen to Howard Stern but he has the right to be offensive and we have the right to change the channel. I don't want someone making the decision for me.
04-08-2004, 08:32 PM #24Originally Posted by bermich
04-08-2004, 09:06 PM #25Originally Posted by jcstomper
Ain't no way I'd let my kid listen to stern... I allow my boy to watch and listen to stuff intended for older than his age, but I do draw the line at obsceneties like Stern.
But I'd never dream of censoring people like stern... if others want to listen to his bile, then good for them.
04-08-2004, 09:24 PM #26
Bush has nothing to do with Stern. Just so you know the biggest fines to date on Stern were during the Clinton adm. in '96. So all of you that hate Bush and try to pin anything you can on him, your point here is mute. This would have happened no matter who was in the White House. Regardless if your a Stern fan, which I am, it sucks. Especially since I live in South Florida where they took him off. If you want to give your support I suggest you check out this site- Stopfcc
04-08-2004, 09:37 PM #27Originally Posted by HiFi
04-08-2004, 09:39 PM #28
just cause you have the freedom to speak your mind doesn't mean you should say extremely offensive and hurtful things. Sometimes what he says can be funny... but most of the time I am just amazed at how aweful it is.
04-08-2004, 09:44 PM #29Originally Posted by Superhuman
04-08-2004, 09:53 PM #30
stremf...your avatar kills me!! Is that you?? J/K
04-08-2004, 10:02 PM #31
04-08-2004, 10:17 PM #32
Look bro's I think Howards show sucks, but it works like this:
The radio has 2 knobs, the first changes the volume higher or lower.
And wouldn't you know it, the other one changes the **** channel. Brilliant.
I'm offended by lots of things, I don't sit there and listen to them and then call up the governor bitching about it.......
04-11-2004, 01:21 PM #33
The next age is gonna be SATELITE RADIO. No censoring. Once we get tired of the FCC, we will switch to satelite and Im sure Howard Stern will love it.
04-11-2004, 01:56 PM #34
already there are many people who have switched to satellite radio. i hate the radio period, but most people i know say they like it.
04-11-2004, 02:52 PM #35
Two things about this...
1) The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is a "non-partisan" agency... it's connected to congress, not the White House. It's more like the GAO or OMB than anything. The 5 commisioners are put thru a process similar to judges, where the president nominates them, then congress confirms them to a 5 year term. They answer to Congress, which of course is all up in arms over Janet Jackson's tit. The white house technically has no influence over them, but we all know that there is politics to be played, especially when we are talking about multi-billion dollar businesses (TV, Radio).
2) I have XM radio... and it is the ****. I have it in the car, here in the home office, and now I can listen to non-censored music, non-censored comedy (hello george carlin!) and non-censored talk shows, without commericals. It's worth the 10 bucks to get that... it's like HBO for the car.
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM #36
I'm all for freedom of speech and all that jaz but the line needs to be drawn somewhere right? Or do we just let ANYTHING go?? Why have a government at all then right? Their job is to make decisions on certain things they feel in our (societies) best interest. It's almost like when you as a parent makes a decision for you child because in the long run you feel that you know what's best. This country would go to the dogs if people like stern and the rest of the pigs out there get free reign. I know some of you might like it but I can promise you society would perish. There has to be a line drawn somewhere. You can't say ban and sensor drugs but don't ban someone from having people just about have orgasms on the radio (howard stern movie) But I guess banning/censoring drugs is wrong to????
04-11-2004, 04:47 PM #37
Of course a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
In crowded theaters, free speech does not extend to that which causes panic or danger, or otherwise gets people hurt.
On the other hand, free speech in art museums does extend to nudity, and even profanity.
IMHO, what gets broadcast on 101 FM or 1080 AM should be limited to that which does not produce public injury. If people, however, discover that their delecate sensibilities have been offended, they can always change the station.
04-11-2004, 07:26 PM #38
Man I never want to be a dog on a leash.... and do you honestly think the government knows or for that matter will do what is in the best interest of all the people, come on. Presidents have brain farts just like regular ppl. Congress men are not all knowing. You let them take Howard now, cause he farted on air, and whats next. I can't believe that there are such hypocritical views on this. Basically some ppl on this board think we should have access to AS and other things because we are capable of making those decisions for ourselves, but should not have access to an audio clip of an orgasm... blows my mind. Why don't we just go to a straight dictatorship, then they can tell you what clothes to wear when you get up in the morning and how many kids your allowed to have. Yeah well don't sign me up for anything where I'm just a soldier and supposed to do what I'm told. God gave me my own brain, and I **** well am capable of using it....... How bout you????
04-11-2004, 08:22 PM #39Originally Posted by roccoswello
04-12-2004, 07:37 AM #40Originally Posted by Tock
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