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    Question HELP: Which Of the "2" is Best

    Almost ready to go with second cycle. Can only go ten weeks (work issues), so I need some advice, as one cycle is short ester and one is [I]longer esters[/I]. I did very well on my low dose first cycle of Prop/Deca /D-bol), so I'm keeping the doese low again. I'm looking for leaner gains, as I bloated massive on that last cycle even with Nolva and L-dex. So, letme know which one you think is best, Feel free to add anything, although not ready for Fina yet:

    Cycle #1 - Short Ester
    Weeks 1-9: Prop 100/eod
    Weeks 1-7: Dur 85mg/eod
    Weeks 5-9: Var 35mg/eod

    Weeks 10-13: Clomid (300/100/50) & Clen
    Nolva & L-dex throughout

    Cycle #2 - Longer Ester
    Weeks 1-4: Prop 100/eod
    Weeks 1-4: Var 35/eod
    Weeks 1-8: Eth 350/week
    Weeks 1-8: EQ 300/week

    Weeks 10-13: Clomid (300/100/50) & Clen
    Nolva & L-dex throughout

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJou812
    Almost ready to go with second cycle. Can only go ten weeks (work issues), so I need some advice, as one cycle is short ester and one is [I]longer esters[/I]. I did very well on my low dose first cycle of Prop/Deca /D-bol), so I'm keeping the doese low again. I'm looking for leaner gains, as I bloated massive on that last cycle even with Nolva and L-dex. So, letme know which one you think is best, Feel free to add anything, although not ready for Fina yet:

    Cycle #1 - Short Ester
    Weeks 1-9: Prop 100/eod
    Weeks 1-7: Dur 85mg/eod
    Weeks 5-9: Var 35mg/eod

    Weeks 10-13: Clomid (300/100/50) & Clen
    Nolva & L-dex throughout

    Cycle #2 - Longer Ester
    Weeks 1-4: Prop 100/eod
    Weeks 1-4: Var 35/eod
    Weeks 1-8: Eth 350/week
    Weeks 1-8: EQ 300/week

    Weeks 10-13: Clomid (300/100/50) & Clen
    Nolva & L-dex throughout

    Thoughts?
    Dude, ur second cycle wouldnt be very benefical... eq needs to be run at least 12 weeks for good results. And i'd run test for at least 10 weeks on both cycles, and at 100mg over eq dose.

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    bump that test E up to at least 400mgs per week.. id say 500mgs tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJou812
    Almost ready to go with second cycle. Can only go ten weeks (work issues), so I need some advice, as one cycle is short ester and one is [I]longer esters[/I]. I did very well on my low dose first cycle of Prop/Deca /D-bol), so I'm keeping the doese low again. I'm looking for leaner gains, as I bloated massive on that last cycle even with Nolva and L-dex. So, letme know which one you think is best, Feel free to add anything, although not ready for Fina yet:

    Cycle #1 - Short Ester
    Weeks 1-9: Prop 100/eod
    Weeks 1-7: Dur 85mg/eod
    Weeks 5-9: Var 35mg/eod

    Weeks 10-13: Clomid (300/100/50) & Clen
    Nolva & L-dex throughout

    Cycle #2 - Longer Ester
    Weeks 1-4: Prop 100/eod
    Weeks 1-4: Var 35/eod
    Weeks 1-8: Eth 350/week
    Weeks 1-8: EQ 300/week

    Weeks 10-13: Clomid (300/100/50) & Clen
    Nolva & L-dex throughout

    Thoughts?
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    8 weeks on Eq is a waste,even more so at that low dose.I'd dump the Eq and run the test 2 weeks longer.VAR at 40 mgs ED,not EOD from week 4-12.Then start pct the day after last Var dose.Using the var while you're waiting for the test to clear before starting pct,will keep the gains and strength coming.

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    thx,
    Sorry, meant Var 35mg ed. I thought EQ might have been a waste at 8 weeks, so thx for your help:
    So, we now have:
    weeks 1-4: Test Prop 100mg/eod
    Weeks 1-10: Test Ethen. 400mg/week
    Weeks 4-12: Var 35mg/ed
    Week 13-15: PCT

    How's that looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJou812
    thx,
    Sorry, meant Var 35mg ed. I thought EQ might have been a waste at 8 weeks, so thx for your help:
    So, we now have:
    weeks 1-4: Test Prop 100mg/eod
    Weeks 1-10: Test Ethen. 400mg/week
    Weeks 4-12: Var 35mg/ed
    Week 13-15: PCT

    How's that looking?
    That looks fine to me.you should do well on that cycle.

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