Thread: Primo or Var only?
08-04-2004, 02:59 PM #1
Primo or Var only?
Which of these would be better to run alone? Please don't tell me to add test. I just want to know which would be better to do alone. Also, please tell me at what dosage you would run it at and for how long. Thanx
08-04-2004, 03:10 PM #2
primo if you're not going to add test, and you can run it at up to 100mg a day depending on cycle experience, however, since i've never run it i'm not sure on the duration..........
08-04-2004, 03:13 PM #3
I've only done two real cycles (both including test). I have a good base and now I would just like to gain 5-10 lbs of muscle without any water. Please give more advice.
08-04-2004, 04:32 PM #4
don't want water...............add prop, i know you dont wanna add test, but thats what you' gotta do man.
08-04-2004, 04:48 PM #5
IMO opinion, and this is based solely on the primo or var question. i would run var only because I do not trust that the primo would be legit. again my opinion, but
08-04-2004, 04:51 PM #6Originally Posted by RATM
08-04-2004, 05:09 PM #7
Just finished up running var at 50mgs for 8 wks. Figured I would take two months off and run something else (most likely test). Well, on top of the var dragging my sex drive down, I wasn't satisified in the least bit with the results (grant it my diet and training was on point). So last minute, I decided to continue the cycle by switching over to test and run that by itself for around 10-12 weeks. Although, I'm only 2 weeks into it and really haven't seen much of a difference yet, I can tell you from experience that I really regret wasting my time with var and not running test from the get-go. If water weight is your main hang up, why don't you just run nolva or l-dex?
08-04-2004, 05:15 PM #8Originally Posted by usualsuspect
08-04-2004, 06:10 PM #9
Var is great run with test at the end of a cycle.
08-04-2004, 06:11 PM #10Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
08-04-2004, 06:29 PM #11Originally Posted by tallyjuice
Originally Posted by usualsuspect
What kind of cycle were you running?
What gains did you have?
Sorry for all the questions - I'm just curious. You are one of the very few people that I have seen that have disliked running var alone. Most everyone (like me) seems to love the strength and cuts. Sorry your cycle didn't turn out like you'd wanted it!
08-04-2004, 06:38 PM #12Originally Posted by mark956101957
at the end or at the begginig as a jumpstart?( dont want the water from d-dol for that )
08-04-2004, 06:39 PM #13
if u had to choose one go with primo...one reason is that its not an oral and injectables almost always have a greater effect than pills. another reason is that for LBM its stronger than anavar ....anavar may suck more water out of you but Primo will add that 10 pounds u want. Im currently running a primo/var cycle actually and im less than 3 weeks in and have gained a good 6-7 pounds of LBM
08-04-2004, 11:50 PM #14Originally Posted by damian
08-05-2004, 05:29 AM #15
I've done em both with excellent results. If I were to do it again I'd probably choose var because the powder is so extremely cheap! I know of several ancillaries that complement the cycle well, so send me a PM if you have any questions and decide to go that route.
What kind of ox was it? I made my own liquid from powder. Ran btg's in the past with test though and loved it.
What kind of cycle were you running? var 50mgs ED for 8 wks
What gains did you have? Mainly ran it as an experiment to see how well it preserved muscle while dieting down. It did an okay job for keeping my weight steady (as my bodyfat dropped) and also kept strength levels up somewhat. However, overall I'd go with test by itself as opposed t ovar any day of the week. I love the feeling of being on test. Nothing else like it. Plus test gets me a lot leaner looking for some reason (diet being the same).
Sorry for all the questions - I'm just curious. You are one of the very few people that I have seen that have disliked running var alone. Most everyone (like me) seems to love the strength and cuts. Sorry your cycle didn't turn out like you'd wanted it
08-05-2004, 06:40 AM #16
Im running Anavar / Winstrol / Testosterone E cycle. Im 4 weeks in. 50mg Var ED/ 100mg winny ED 400mg Test E week. My strength is through the roof. I was at 13.8 Bf im now at 11.2 BF! Iv experimented with many different cycle's with lots of gear, but i am loving the combanation of Winstrol and Anavar. I ran the winny and var 2 weeks before i started my Test and it has or had no effect on my sex drive, and i can only say possitive things as of this time.
08-05-2004, 06:53 AM #17Originally Posted by Jjdigs74
08-05-2004, 12:51 PM #18
wow, I wasn't expecting all the results. Now I really don't know what to do because of the mixed opinions. Either way my gear will be legit, so I'm am not afraid of that. I will be doing a clean bulk, keeping my cals at about 3500-4000. Obviously, my protein will be very high. I'm thinking primo for more mass, but at what dosage?
08-05-2004, 09:30 PM #19
Last edited by tallyjuice; 08-05-2004 at 11:34 PM.
08-05-2004, 11:35 PM #20
08-15-2004, 01:45 AM #21Originally Posted by tallyjuice
I don't even know what kind of dose you should run - what kind of cycle history do you have? Hell, if you had virgin receptors you could probably run it pretty low, but I'd suggest running it at atleast 500mg/wk since you've had two previous cycles. Running that for 8-10 weeks would be more than enough for "5-10 pounds of muscle."
You could also gain "5-10 pounds of muscle" with anavar solo without too much difficulty. You might want to run some B12 with it to stimulate that appetite but if you diet correctly it wouldn't be a problem - and it would be a LOT cheaper than running a moderate dose of primo.
Your call. Good luck!
08-15-2004, 12:59 PM #22
I think I'll go with the primo
08-15-2004, 01:44 PM #23Junior Member
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yeah, I'd go primo too but only if it is 100% legit. I would also run test prop buddy, you won't hold water with that cycle.
08-15-2004, 02:21 PM #24
Primo is the safest roid around, it has basically no sides and is practically purely anabolic , whereas oxandrolone wont make u gain much mass, though it will give u a ridiculous strength gain. Both of these are very expensive tho i wont give u brilliant gains neway, primo will give u very gd quality gains, with no sides, but it aint realli worth the money. It sounds to me like ur tryin to gain without riskin ur health, therefore try deca , its a lot cheaper and easier to get and will give u bigga gains.
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