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09-05-2004, 07:46 PM #1Junior Member
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Very interesting question for all you steriod users
What do you think of natural athletes!!
Especially those who are just as big or bigger then you when cycling.
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09-05-2004, 07:48 PM #2
Its all great if they can get really big naturally then good for them....most of us cant so we use Juice!
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09-05-2004, 07:52 PM #3
Everyone has genetic limits....... athletes genetics are better than the average person. If someone wants to go beyond thier limits after training and eatting for years they may consider using AAS, HGH...........
I never gave it a thought....... we are who we are...... only I can change what I don't like about my aperance.
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09-05-2004, 07:57 PM #4Junior Member
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Originally Posted by TheMudMan
I have a big natural physique and as a bodybuilder i am very inclined to use gear. But my genetics have allowed me to be strong and large, i was 225 lean 5'8 on get this....my 16th birthday started training at 13, current lifts are deadlift 635, squat-unknown havent squated back hurts but quads are 29'' and bench is 405 for a triple.
Still thinking of doing a test and deca cycle. been thinking and planning for months now lol.
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09-05-2004, 08:00 PM #5Originally Posted by Roadisafunnyword
How old are you? 16?
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09-05-2004, 08:05 PM #6Junior Member
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Originally Posted by TheMudMan
i dont have any pictures of myself, but if you want i could post a picture of my little brother who is 13 years old who has been training for 6 months and is already showing the size and shape...
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09-05-2004, 08:09 PM #7
Consider yourself lucky to have the genetics you have........ You should keep training until you reach your potential and then think about using AAS....... JMO
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09-05-2004, 08:09 PM #8
You may be big and strong but why not be BIGGER and STRONGER.
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09-05-2004, 08:15 PM #9Junior Member
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Originally Posted by bermich
reason 2- I have an addictive peronaltiy, i would prob do more and more until i was unhealty
reason 3- natty training requires more drive, not to say users dont have as much drive, but its required naturally more then it would be with users.
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09-05-2004, 08:25 PM #10Originally Posted by Roadisafunnyword
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09-05-2004, 09:26 PM #11Originally Posted by Roadisafunnyword
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09-05-2004, 09:30 PM #12Originally Posted by )(PimP JuicE)(
I train with full intensity off cycle, it just seems like i turn into a complete blood and guts animal when on!
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09-05-2004, 09:33 PM #13
It is great when someone can get big with out the juice. However, some people like to push the envelope and increase their potential with supplements and other enhancements… I generally tend to have a little bit more respect for natty BB because I know it took them a lot of time, patience and dedication to get to where they are. However, do not get me wrong I am not taking away for those who use A.A.S. because I know many people train extremely hard in here and use, but what I am saying is the process is longer for those who go at it naturally.
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09-05-2004, 09:34 PM #14
I agree with Pimp Juice it makes me want to be at the gym more than ever. The pump is so intence and it feels great..
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09-05-2004, 09:37 PM #15
You know it is like driving a Camaro and a Corvette…Both are fast cars but one has been supper charged for maximum performance.
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09-05-2004, 09:43 PM #16Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Nickster#1
Rite now im about 257 11%bf.
my arms are 20 1/2" (my best bodypart)
legs are 28 1/2''
calves arew 18"
waist is 34"
forearms 17'' (another good bodypart)
chest is about 54"
These all may be a little over since i measuered myself and did not get EXACT but somewhat close.
BY the way i did not mean i would loose my drive. I usta train with marines, and those guys teach you focus, the are all about focus and concentration. Im afraid juice might let me forget about the concentration needed.
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09-05-2004, 09:45 PM #17Junior Member
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ILl get that picture of my little brother and protege as i liek to call the little mess, when the bodybuilding.com boards are back up.
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09-05-2004, 09:47 PM #18
i really cannot understand why ppl come to this board to try and keep ppl from using gear. ok you have made your point. i am 5'9" and 225lbs and i will start my first real cycle tomarrow and nothing you say will keep me from that KID. so go to another board and try to save their lives OK.
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09-05-2004, 10:03 PM #19Originally Posted by Bigkatz
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09-05-2004, 10:08 PM #20
juice it up fellow S babies
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09-05-2004, 10:10 PM #21Originally Posted by Roadisafunnyword
i think..."those lucky S.O.B.'s - but imagine what monster'z they'd be if they got some gear...hahahaha....
seriously though, makes me wish i had that gift
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09-05-2004, 10:10 PM #22Originally Posted by Roadisafunnyword
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09-05-2004, 10:16 PM #23
BY the way i did not mean i would loose my drive. I usta train with marines, and those guys teach you focus, the are all about focus and concentration. Im afraid juice might let me forget about the concentration needed.[/QUOTE]
Thats kinda funny cuz i train in a Marine gym and alot of them use gear to help them get the edge on ppl when their lives depend on it.
so focus on why they use it
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09-05-2004, 10:17 PM #24
i believe that whether you use gear or not is completely up to you and your personal asperations. i chose to use gear, however i would never even consider trying to convince someone that they should use it also
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09-05-2004, 10:19 PM #25Originally Posted by scotttiger54
naw really though good point. they wanna use fiiiiine, if not , fiiiiine
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09-05-2004, 11:49 PM #26
In my opinion, I don't know what point this guy is tryin to make
I totally disagree with his theory that anabolics make you lose focus and I don't buy the whole "I used to train with marines and they teach you focus" comment
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09-05-2004, 11:52 PM #27
I want to see a pic.
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09-05-2004, 11:53 PM #28Junior Member
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Thats great for them. But I'm a hard gainer with not so great genetics, if I had the genetics of a NFL RB then I would be REALLY HUGE!
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09-06-2004, 12:14 AM #29
I just want to see a pic. You can say anything you want online. Post a pic. I say there is no way to have those stats naturally if they are real.
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09-06-2004, 12:45 AM #30Originally Posted by Gilster
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09-06-2004, 04:03 AM #31
The hell with that pic, i want to see more pics of the girl in sore24/7 's avater. Dude if that is your girl im sorry but id love to be behind her in that picture.
Last edited by PT; 09-06-2004 at 06:06 AM. Reason: to obsene
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09-06-2004, 10:15 AM #32Junior Member
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OK YOu GUYS READ NOHTING I SAID!
DID I TELL ANYONE NOT TO USE STERIODS ??? NO
all i said is that I dont think i should, becasue I would loose focus, did i say anything about anyone else in any posts??? NO
Jesus
pics are soon to come. I dont have a digital camera, i have to borrow somones, so be patient, but they will com.e
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09-06-2004, 10:18 AM #33Junior Member
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Originally Posted by sore24/7
those measurements are bulked up, offseason around 11 to 13 percent bodyfat??
I dont know if any of you have dieted for a show naturally but within the last month you lose muscle like it was cookie crumbs. Id be lucky to come in over 220.
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09-06-2004, 10:22 AM #34Junior Member
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Oh and i have used clenbuterol , and in no way am i telling anyone who can use steriods responsibly to not use them.
on the otherhand if you a 130 17 year old kid, whos gonna pop dbols....
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09-06-2004, 10:28 AM #35Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Gilster
the only impressive stats I had there was my arms (which are short and easy to build) which are just over 20 inches, i rounded to 20 and a half.
my chest is 54 with a little help from the gyno i have from puberty.
Youd be suprised how many guys can get 20 inch arms naturally with good genetics.
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09-06-2004, 12:46 PM #36
I would be interested in seeing a vid of the deadlift you claim which is approaching triple-bodyweight territory. It's defintely possible but once someone claims lifts much over 500-600 lb area on the internet and doesn't claim to be a competitive powerlifter or a 300 lb monster I am skeptical.
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09-06-2004, 12:49 PM #37Originally Posted by chicamahomico
I would too. I triple my BW on DL, but I sure didnt do it when I was 16.
I have friends that could when they were that age, but of course, you can find their names in PL USA Magazine.
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09-06-2004, 01:06 PM #38
Exactly......at any age if the person is not a PL I would still be skeptical.
Originally Posted by inheritmylife
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09-06-2004, 02:33 PM #39
I have a 17 year old brother that is 6'5" and 245lbs. He played 4 games of football in high school and got recruited to play for UNR. He doesn't need to use anything he has the genetics. I am 6'2" and 210, the heaviest I have ever been was 222lbs, while on a cycle. So for me I would so I could be bigger than him
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09-06-2004, 02:42 PM #40Junior Member
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Originally Posted by inheritmylife
JESUS GUYS, i was talking about stats i had in highschool trying to give an example of my genetics. When i was sixteen my deadlift was probly like 400 in the 220's, and i was at 275 when i hit the 630 deadlift. i was at a higher bodyfat.
im going to stop arguing now and just to my best to get a digital camera and put an end to teh arguemnt, arite guys? jeez
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