really confused...is it time to up the dose?

**bigjayo** · 09-08-2004, 07:21 PM

Hey guys,

I need some input here. Let's start with stats currently 252lbs, 18%(yup fat boy

) 6'2. I read and listened here for my first cycle, 10 weeks 500mg test e, gained about 14lbs(from 235lbs to roughly 250ish). Now, everybody told me to start on a low dose to see what happens(and I believe in moderation). I went into the first cycle knowing I was a big guy and I might not respond at all, but I did and got really strong really quick. Well now I am doing a second 500mg test e cycle, its week 8 so far, and my gains are horrible to say the least, I feel weaker here at week 8 then I did at week 4. Is it time to up the next cycle to 750mg? Like I said, I believe in moderation, but I am a big guy, has my body stopped responding to 500mg? I wasn't ready to come to this conclusion just yet, but this current(second cycle), has me wondering if I've only wasted my money doing another 500mg a week cycle(week 8 up 2lbs, that is crazy by my standards). Since I'm only in week 8 now and I usually run 10-12 weeks, should I just end it here and do PCT or should I use 750mg/week(for the 4 remaining weeks) till week 12. Please let me know what you guys think, tren acetate is also available but I've stayed away due to cost(EOD injections of 1cc means 3cc/week and I used 10cc in 3 weeks where as with test, 2 vials 10cc's I am good to go for at least 10weeks), possibly a 250mg a week test e + 140mg EOD tren per week? Once again,tren will cost me more so I'd have to lower the test dosage just to afford the added tren(b/c I would require 20cc's of tren to run for 6 weeks I believe, 140mg concentration). Alot of info here, let me know what you guys think.

Thanks,

bigjayo

**UnNaturalBuff** · 09-08-2004, 07:28 PM

could be a number of things, diet, rest, possibly fake gear.

But at your weight you should probally up them doses to 750mgs and see if that helps

**Spoon** · 09-08-2004, 07:28 PM

Hows your diet? you eating enough?

**bigjayo** · 09-08-2004, 07:34 PM

its real gear boys

same place as the first cycle came from

As for eating, I eat ALOT(4000cals at least) and I'm overweight so I mean how can I not be eating enough? haha. I am just wondering if its time to do 750mg now(for the rest of the cycle 4weeks) or start PCT, save my remaining test e, and run a new test e cycle at 750mg or possibly even a 250mg test e(lower dose to account for added cost of tren ) + 400mg tren a(eod 140mg 3ccs/week for 6 weeks) cycle? Really just disappoint here, 2lbs in 8 weeks, I would have expected more

**Spoon** · 09-08-2004, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by bigjayo

its real gear boys

same place as the first cycle came from

As for eating, I eat ALOT(4000cals at least) and I'm overweight so I mean how can I not be eating enough? haha. I am just wondering if its time to do 750mg now(for the rest of the cycle 4weeks) or start PCT, save my remaining test e, and run a new test e cycle at 750mg or possibly even a 250mg test e(lower dose to account for added cost of tren ) + 400mg tren a(eod 140mg 3ccs/week for 6 weeks) cycle? Really just disappoint here, 2lbs in 8 weeks, I would have expected more

Up your cals some more if you can. To increase your appetite try some b12, also i think its time to up the dose. good luck!

**bigjayo** · 09-08-2004, 07:40 PM

Thats all I needed, just making sure I wasn't nuts going to 750mg for the last 4 weeks of this cycle and then setting the new standard at 750mg test e for cycles to come