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    need advice from all pro s out there.

    hello !!
    This is what my cycle will look like:


    w 1-19 20mg nolva ED
    w 1-3 (4) anadrol 50mg ED
    w 1-13 250mg sustanon EOD
    w 1-12 500mg EQ / Week
    w 13-15 50mg d-bol ED
    w 16-19 clomid


    1: someone told me to skip nolva during the cycle becuse it ****s up IGF-1
    Can someone tell me what that is about??

    2: Do u guys think that I should add Pregnyl to this cycle and in that case
    when and how much?

    3: I am thinking about to allso add 25 mg win tabs ED Week 12-15. Do you think it will do any good or just harm??

    4: what is the best ? should I run anadrol for 3 or 4 weeks


    This will be my 4th cycle.
    thanx for pro answers

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    i would either run the test up to week 15 or drop the dbol all together and end the cycle at week 13. i would also guess that the nolva would be sufficient at 10mg's a day.

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    i dont think pregnyl HCG will be necessary, clomid and nolva are more effective for pct, run the anadrol for 4 weeks you could up it to 100mg after wk 1 or 2.

    if you want to run winny ull need to run it for longer than 3 weeks, id say 6-8 weeks at 50mg ed

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    run the winny @ 50mg ED for 6 weeks.

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    your liver is gonna be shot, DRINK A LOT OF WATER.

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    Anyone else out there who can give me more advice??
    Its good too listen to as many as possible and then make my own mind from that.
    Last edited by LILLEN; 09-15-2004 at 01:32 PM.

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    no one??

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    choose either dbol or anadrol . run it at the beginning. raise the sustanon to a higher dose than the eq. Why would you want to run dbol and winny at the end of a cycle?

    how about:
    1-3 anadrol 50mg ed
    1-13 sustanon 500mg ew
    1-12 eq 400mg ew

    also after doing eq myself I'm a firm believer it needs to be run at least 12 weeks so maybe increase it to 14-16 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowman25
    choose either dbol or anadrol . run it at the beginning. raise the sustanon to a higher dose than the eq. Why would you want to run dbol and winny at the end of a cycle?

    how about:
    1-3 anadrol 50mg ed
    1-13 sustanon 500mg ew
    1-12 eq 400mg ew

    also after doing eq myself I'm a firm believer it needs to be run at least 12 weeks so maybe increase it to 14-16 weeks.
    there you go bro, this is a nice simple yet effective all laid out for you. i would run the drol for four weeks though but do what you will.

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    shouln't I run something until my PCT starts?? that whas the intention with The d-bol . or do u think there will be crash if a do that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowman25
    choose either dbol or anadrol . run it at the beginning. raise the sustanon to a higher dose than the eq. Why would you want to run dbol and winny at the end of a cycle?

    how about:
    1-3 anadrol 50mg ed
    1-13 sustanon 500mg ew
    1-12 eq 400mg ew

    also after doing eq myself I'm a firm believer it needs to be run at least 12 weeks so maybe increase it to 14-16 weeks.

    is it any idea to start earlier with EQ ?
    i mean like. w 1-15 Eq
    w 3-15 sust.?

    Everybody says that i should increase eq to 15 weeks, and maybe that is good. but 15 weeks on sust feel a little long. Is it effektive that long or will the results and gains stopp after like 12 weeks or so then its unnesecery. Or

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