New Winter Bulker

**nmk85roll** · 11-22-2004, 12:11 PM

Hey everyone, it's time for my 5th cycle, we'll be putting on the weight with this one. Current stats are 185 lbs and 5'9" about 9% bf. Diet and training will be posted in the journal area, just wanted to get some feedback if i needed to change anything with the supplements.

History:
Cycle 1
week 1-4 dbol 30mg ED
week 1-12 sus 500mg
week 1-12 EQ 400mg
week 1-12 liquidex .25mg ED

Cycle 2
week 1-12 prop 75mg ED
week 1-8 tren 50mg ED
week 9-12 winny 50mg ED
week 1,2,5,6,9,10 clen
week 1-12 liquidex .25mg ED

Cycle 3
week 1-12 EQ 467mg (200mg E3D)
week 1-13 test E 583mg (250mg E3D)
week 1-13 t3 25 mcgs ED
week 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
week 5-12 tren 75mg ED
week 14-15 prop 75mg ED
week 1-15 liquidex .5mg ED

Cycle 4
week 1-12 prop 75mg ED
week 1-8 tren 75mg ED
week 9-12 winny 55 mg ED
week 4-10 t3 ramp up and down, max 100 mcgs ED
week 1,2,5,6,9,10 clen

What I'm planning on running this winter...

Week 1-12 EQ 583mg (250mg E3D)
Week 1-13 Test E 700mg (300mg E3D)
Week 1-14 T3 25mcgs ED
Week 1-6 Dbol 50mg ED
Week 7-14 Tren 80mg ED
Week 14-15 Prop 100mg ED
Week 15-18 IGF 40mcgs 6 Days a week
Week 1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Week 16-18 PCT

Supplements:
Protein
R-ALA
Milk Thistle
Glucasmine/MSM/Chondroiton
CLA
Multivitamin
Flax Seed Oil

What do you think? I want to investigate the effects of IGF on my own body, and I thought using it during PCT would be a good indication if I respond well to it. I know T3 is good to run with GH, but I don't recall reading that it had a synergy effect with IGF. Any ideas on that one?

Thanks Everyone

**Maraxus** · 11-22-2004, 12:15 PM

5 cycles and youre 185?? That doesnt sound right bro. Id recheck my diet if I were you bro. What does that look like?

**nmk85roll** · 11-22-2004, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Maraxus

5 cycles and youre 185?? That doesnt sound right bro. Id recheck my diet if I were you bro. What does that look like?

Before you start criticizing bro...

**Cuttup** · 11-22-2004, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Maraxus

5 cycles and youre 185?? That doesnt sound right bro. Id recheck my diet if I were you bro. What does that look like?

that may be good for him, we dont know what his original weight was.

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-22-2004, 12:31 PM

need lat work and rear delt, lets look at the legs please. chest a bit too, but you look tight and your bf looks low so that would be easily keeped in control while bulking. Also the low dose t-3 will work good with the tren . are you going to cycle the t-3 or run strait through?

**nmk85roll** · 11-22-2004, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

need lat work and rear delt, lets look at the legs please. chest a bit too, but you look tight and your bf looks low so that would be easily keeped in control while bulking. Also the low dose t-3 will work good with the tren. are you going to cycle the t-3 or run strait through?

Unfortunately here is the only leg shot I have. And I do need work on my lats, rear delts aren't too bad though, here is a back shot as well.

Either way, I'm going to run a low dose of T3, but not sure if 12 weeks is still too long even at a low dose of 25mcgs. Think I should cycle it a little?

**Ejuicer** · 11-22-2004, 12:53 PM

If running it at that dose i would run it the whole length myself

**Maraxus** · 11-22-2004, 01:00 PM

Ok. I questioned your validity because from my perspective 4 cycles sitting at 185 is not very impressive, but those photos proved otherwise. Now since this isnt the picture forum and you have questions regarding your cycle I will try my best to help you out.

I dont think you need the t3 bro, also 583mg eq? is this homebrew?

**w_rballs** · 11-22-2004, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by nmk85roll

Before you start criticizing bro...

he isnt critizing bro. he is just stating a fact. so calm down. i agree with maraxus. im willing to bet something is wrong with your diet

**nmk85roll** · 11-22-2004, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Maraxus

Ok. I questioned your validity because from my perspective 4 cycles sitting at 185 is not very impressive, but those photos proved otherwise. Now since this isnt the picture forum and you have questions regarding your cycle I will try my best to help you out.

I dont think you need the t3 bro, also 583mg eq? is this homebrew?

The EQ will be home brew, but the 583 mg a week comes from shooting 250mg every 3 days. I like to keep constant levels in my system, and although it doesn't seem that big of a difference between twice a week, for some reason it makes a difference for me.

Do you not like T3 for increased protein synthesis?

Thanks for your input bro.

**nmk85roll** · 11-22-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by w_rballs

he isnt critizing bro. he is just stating a fact. so calm down. i agree with maraxus. im willing to bet something is wrong with your diet

The diets fine... trust me...

Oatmeal 1.5 cup
Designer Whey x2

Smuckers Natural Peanut Butter 2.5 tbsp
Chicken

Sweet Potato
Fat Free Black Beans
Chicken

Tuna 1 can
Flax Seed Oil
Chicken
Eggs x2

Dannon Lite and Fit 0% Fat Creamy
Chicken
Riceland Natural Brown Rice .75 cup

Natural applesauce 1 cup
Dextrose 7.5tsp
Maltodextrin 0.25cup
Designer Whey x3

Egg Beaters Fat Free 4oz
Deans Dry Curd Cottage Cheese 1 cup
Sugar Free Jello x2

4100 calories, 90g fat, 400g carbs, 410 g protein

**w_rballs** · 11-22-2004, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by nmk85roll

The diets fine... trust me...

Oatmeal 1.5 cup
Designer Whey x2

Smuckers Natural Peanut Butter 2.5 tbsp
Chicken

Sweet Potato
Fat Free Black Beans
Chicken

Tuna 1 can
Flax Seed Oil
Chicken
Eggs x2

Dannon Lite and Fit 0% Fat Creamy
Chicken
Riceland Natural Brown Rice .75 cup

Natural applesauce 1 cup
Dextrose 7.5tsp
Maltodextrin 0.25cup
Designer Whey x3

Egg Beaters Fat Free 4oz
Deans Dry Curd Cottage Cheese 1 cup
Sugar Free Jello x2

4100 calories, 90g fat, 400g carbs, 410 g protein

no way that is 400grams of carbs

**nmk85roll** · 11-22-2004, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by w_rballs

no way that is 400grams of carbs

Argue what you will bro...

Calories Fat Carbs Protein

Oatmeal 1.5 cup 450 9 81 15
Designer Whey x2 180 3 4 36

Natural Peanut Butter 2.5 tbsp 500 40 15 18
Chicken 180 1 0 40

Sweet Potato 300 0 70 5
Trader Joes Black Beans 140 0 30 12
Chicken 180 1 0 40

Tuna 1 can 150 1.5 0 32
Flax Seed Oil 130 14 0 0
Chicken 180 1 0 40
Eggs x2 140 12 2 8

Dannon Lite and Fit 0% Fat Creamy 100 0 16 8
Chicken 180 1 0 40
Riceland Natural Brown Rice .75 cup 450 3 96 9

Motts applesauce 1 cup 100 0 28 0
Dextrose 7.5tsp 90 0 24 0
Maltodextrin 0.25cup 95 0 23 0
Designer Whey x3 270 4.5 6 54

Egg Beaters Fat Free 4oz 60 0 2 12
Deans Dry Curd Cottage Cheese 1 cup 180 1 2 40
Sugar Free Jello x2 20 0 0 2

TOTALS 4075 92 399 411