First Timer

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 02:09 PM

Ok everyone...I believe I have a source now and I am looking at my first cycle. It will be as follows unless I hear that I am all messed up. Also, I could use a confirmation or two before I spend money or get in trouble. If you know or can do a check for me...hit the thread and say so and I will contact you outside of this open post. Here goes:

2 - 10 ml 250 mg enthanate $95 each
6 - 20 mg nolva 10 pacs $15 each
2 - 5000 iu hcg $35 each

My plan is this:

10 weeks at 500 mg enthanate shot 2 times week 250 each
nolva every other day from start
500 iu hcg every week shot 1 day before AS shot in 250 iu shots

recovery will be wait 2 weeks of nothing and then:

2 500 hcg shots 1st week and 2 nolva a day

2 250 hcg shots 2nd week and 1 nolva a day

done....let me know what you all think....Appreciate info and help on check...thank you

**bmwrob** · 01-12-2005, 02:13 PM

PM a MOD for a source check. How about clomid for PCT?

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 02:15 PM

Have read a lot of posts and sites saying nolva just as good. Still open to change...like to hear more....thanks

**Monkeytown** · 01-12-2005, 02:15 PM

Also, you might want to get a little more than just the 20 ml of test e b/c there is always some left in the needle when you inject, therefore 20ml will only last 8-9 weeks.

Good luck bro.

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 02:17 PM

will get a couple amps then....thanks man

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 02:26 PM

must be pretty good, no advice?????? c'mon everyone i have seen others ask ... go ahead and give it to me :+D

**rock75** · 01-12-2005, 02:33 PM

nolv and clomid are two totally different things...

nolv helps the prevention of gyno, by fighting the estrogen receptors

clomid tells your body's natural test production to start up again

whoever told you that is misinformed and i would question whatever else he has informed you of

IMO - you may not need the HCG as often, the only thing it actually does is "trick" the nuts into thinking there is test in them so they swell, too much and you will produce an abundance of estrogen and the nolv you plan on taking will not be effective and then you will have the onset of gyno - IMO only take the HCG if your nuts shrink to the size of raisins - a wk after your last shot take your HCG, then another the following wk and start you PCT with the clomid

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 02:38 PM

Thank you. I will consider adding chlomid at the end and waiting for any problems with raisin nuts before shooting hcg . Still appreciate the info and looking for more....thanks everyone

**rock75** · 01-12-2005, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Monkeytown

Also, you might want to get a little more than just the 20 ml of test e b/c there is always some left in the needle when you inject, therefore 20ml will only last 8-9 weeks.

Good luck bro.

which is a 10 to 12 wk cycle

12 wks of jabs is actually a 14 cycle

**worldtraveln** · 01-12-2005, 02:41 PM

With only 10 weeks of test I doubt you will need HCG .

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 02:43 PM

Glad to hear, don't care for the thought of squirrel nuts ....

**n8or** · 01-12-2005, 03:01 PM

can u do nolva after the cycle, or does it have to be while ur one the cycle?? plz answer

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 03:02 PM

Just a bump to keep me alive....help please

**worldtraveln** · 01-12-2005, 03:05 PM

Nolva can be used during the cycle to help prevent gyno. Usually the dose is 10mg a day. During PCT it is normally combined with a clomid/nolva regimine. I would suggest looking at Pheendo's PCT to get an idea of how to run PCT.

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 03:09 PM

Thanks for the tips

**rock75** · 01-12-2005, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by C130nav

Usually the dose is 10mg a day.

IMO - wouldn't take any less than 20mg/day since you don't know if you are suspect to gyno...

not everyone has to take nolv, i don't take it - but i have it on hand if i get itchy nips or they become sore...better to have and not need than to need and not have

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 03:32 PM

Thanks rock...will do....

**nate3422** · 01-12-2005, 03:42 PM

95$ for the test e is kinda hight but not to bad. im about to be on 750mg test e/week and 600mg eq/week. but for your first time 500mg/test e should be good you will some some results. i would run clomid at the end of your cycle for sure, 2 weeks after your last shot

**jc3** · 01-12-2005, 03:43 PM

Thanks nate

**Soup** · 01-18-2005, 02:42 PM

how long into a cycle will your balls start to atrophy? Is it when you feel the gear kickin in? say around week 4-6 or is it generally sooner? i am taking 500 mg/wk of test e. starting my 3rd week. and wondering when I can expect my boys to go north.