cops got me!!!! help please

**Stout1** · 01-20-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jdawg50

Rick Collins is right bro

If you got hella $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

**joevette** · 01-20-2005, 06:45 PM

28g of winny in 2 vials! How did they figure that one, by the total weight including the water?

**garfunkel** · 01-20-2005, 06:52 PM

**toolman** · 01-20-2005, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleDave

how do you know that? have you even been through booking??? That is usually done after booking, once you are out on bail/recog

Not true, many people are not booked or arrested untill indicted by a grand jury.

1. Get a lawyer.
2. Did you sign a consent to search form? If not, testify you do not recall ever giving him permission to search.
3. Get a lawyer
4. No good comes from letting anyone search you without a warrant. If they have probable cause, they would not have asked. In the future enjoy your constitutional right to unlawful search and siezure.
5. Get a lawyer.

**thebrakes** · 01-20-2005, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by blackh2

i never was given a ticket or anything and now its just popping up since september

you werent even given a ticket for the speeding?

and MMA is right if you gave consent to search your car you likely wont beat the illegal search rap. only way to do that is to really persuade the judge or jurors that you were under duress when you were asked, and you thought there would be negative consequences (blocking your car in with cruisers, having a gun in your face, etc)

**Flynman** · 01-20-2005, 07:05 PM

I said it once and I'll say it again "DON"T CARRY GEAR IN YOUR CAR OR GYM BAG". As far as the search goes if a cop wants to search your car he'll find a reason or he'll just do it anyway and then lie in court about it. Get a good lawyer if your future job depends on it.

**Tazwell** · 01-20-2005, 07:32 PM

i know a great lawer in houston. he is very good and specializes in possesion charges. if you realy want to get out of it and are willing to spend a little money i can give you his number.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-20-2005, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by joevette

28g of winny in 2 vials! How did they figure that one, by the total weight including the water?

Funny i was thinking the same thing. That would be a dosage of 1400mg/ml.

**Stout1** · 01-20-2005, 08:22 PM

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**Stout1** · 01-20-2005, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by wickedSRT-4

Yo bro...This is odd. Not calling you a bluffer, just saying. First, did the cop give you a speeding ticket? Second, were your rights read to you AFTER he found the drugs? If no, then why worry? For one, you should be able to see the charges if they indeed charge you. Second, you would have been arrested and charged, later released on bond and given an arraignment date. They would not just say, "Sure, go ahead and go home while we test this stuff."

It nots that easy. Its a cops word against his. Who do YOU think will win?

**SwoleDave** · 01-20-2005, 09:01 PM

it dont matter if Rights were read or not.... someone has been watching a little too much Law and Order...

**Tose22** · 01-20-2005, 09:23 PM

if you were never given a ticket when you got pulled over, and if you never signed anything stating that you possesed the steroids , then why dont you just deny everything?

**Tose22** · 01-21-2005, 01:01 AM

thats why i said deny everything, if there was no paper work, if he was not taken in, and all that happened was a verbal warning, then there is no case

**blackh2** · 01-21-2005, 01:41 PM

thanks for the help. anabolic st with the kangaroo on it. i did call hrt place and my blood works qualifies for a script for winnie which im going to get but it does me no good because the script is for now. and i think it would be hard to convince why i have vet-winnie???? paul johnson was a name of a lawyer that i also heard was good????

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 02:06 PM

Look I am telling you the law is as much about politics and power as it is the law. If you find the right attorney and you have no priors you will be able to deal this down to a misdimeanor. You need to find someone that is connected. A past prosecutor or judge that practices criminal law.

No ticket and no signature for the gear. How can they prove it was you? They would have a hard time proving the chain of custody on that gear.

**blackh2** · 01-21-2005, 02:26 PM

i hope you are right. me being from missouri and not knowing anyone in dallas sucks. and what really sucks is everyday im getting mail from law offices in dallas area. which is at my parents house right now.

**blackh2** · 01-21-2005, 02:42 PM

thet were in plastic so my fingerprints should not be on them.

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 02:56 PM

The bottom line is about 5k min for a good lawyer, 2 things in life one should NEVER cut corners on........................... a good accountant and a good lawyer.

**SwoleDave** · 01-21-2005, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

The bottom line is about 5k min for a good lawyer, 2 things in life one should NEVER cut corners on........................... a good accountant and a good lawyer.

Of course, price is dependent on if you actually go to trial or not... if not, although i dont know atty. fees in the dallas area, you should pay around 2k for a decent lawyer.

**blackh2** · 01-21-2005, 03:05 PM

the one i talked to said 1500 for retainer than 1000 extra if it goes to trial, which he doubt it would. all the fliers in the mail were talking like 700-1000 but i figured i go with him since he has ref's. my buddies aunt and uncle use him in dallas all the time.

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 03:06 PM

find the one you want and pay him what he wants period, you may get some back but I can't see anything less than a 5k retainer for a good lawyer.

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 03:08 PM

no!no! do not do it that way . Are your buddies aunt & uncle going to criminal trials often? You need someone who specializes, not a generic civil attorney.

**blackh2** · 01-21-2005, 03:12 PM

his name is paul johnson and from dallas but that is all i know right now. a guy on here said rick collins but im still in the same boat. i dont no him either

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 03:18 PM

rick collins is the #1 in the country

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 03:21 PM

changed this if you didn't get it shoot me a PM for the number

**Pale Horse** · 01-21-2005, 03:22 PM

sorry to the mods if that was wrong to post

**MER** · 01-21-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jdawg50

Rick Collins is right bro

Agreed, he's done alot of Drug related cases and I have a friend who has had a good experience with him.

**kman** · 01-21-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Flynman

I said it once and I'll say it again "DON"T CARRY GEAR IN YOUR CAR OR GYM BAG". As far as the search goes if a cop wants to search your car he'll find a reason or he'll just do it anyway and then lie in court about it. Get a good lawyer if your future job depends on it.

I guess us New Yorkers think the same, was about to write the same thing,,,,cops can make any reason they want to search your car, it smelled like pot, you were swirving,etc. They make up there own rules, and lie about it in court. Get a good lawyer, and he will prob. work out a deal with the DA on the side if he is good. Goodluck bro.

**Essy** · 01-21-2005, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackh2

this aint no **** joke. the cop let me go back september sent the **** off and it just got back. he filed a case at large- which i dont have any idea what that means. i dont have time for jokes this is serious

I am not understanding. Were you arrested or not?

**yikes!!** · 01-21-2005, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by MMA

getting caught it an obvious lie is just going to make the rest of your testimony less credible. and people get convicted all the time with seized drug evidence they don't sign for. the only thing he has to lie about is if he was really speeding. "your honor, i wasn't speeding, i don't know why he stopped me". if he beats the stop, he beats the search, he beats the whole case

Agreed, I had a cop pull me over late in the night just fishing for someone to pull over....anyway, I was drinking and blew a 0.18 on the breathalizer and he found a bag of zanni's....went to court and my lawyer ate him up like he was a buffet.....no speeding ticket issued, no traffic citation what so ever....he was just happy to catch a drunk with drugs.....beat the stop and if you had a kilo of the white-horse in your car you would still get off.....GET A GOOD LAWYER!!....money is an issue but it's your freedom and career....good luck

**blackh2** · 01-22-2005, 02:50 PM

i really hope you guys are right about the no ticket being an issue. the cop had the right i guess to not take me to jail, but he pulled me over for speeding and he didnt give a ticket for anything. i really thought he was going to keep the **** for himself cause i had 2 open bottles of test and he just kept the winnie bottles because they were sealed in plastic. from what i hear he did he put it as a case at large untill they tested the winnie he took from me. now the charges are a class 3 poss of stanzolo 28 grams but less than 200. im not sure how they figure that but that is what the secretary read to me. the lawyer im considering called down there got what he could but said the grand jury was still looking at the file and there wasnt really even a case number. he said when they get all toget her he will want to see the police report first to see if i have an out

**needle** · 01-22-2005, 02:56 PM

wow thats to bad, hope it works out for ya!!!

**blackh2** · 01-22-2005, 02:59 PM

**** first time offence id hope it works out

**Knight1811** · 01-22-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleDave

victor, a plea isnt guarenteed. if the DA feels as though it's a solid case, it is very likely that they will persue the full charge

Dude, it's 2 vials of Winny and some viagra. If a DA wants to go to trial over that then he/she must have more time one his/her hand than China has rice.
VERY VERY likely it will be a plea given the fact it is so little and he has a clean record.

Knight1811

**Pale Horse** · 01-22-2005, 03:25 PM

That guy messed up, I really would like to see the report. You didn't even sign for it? How can they link it to you? This has holes as wide as a bus in it. You should be okay, just have to go thru the process that's all.

**EastCoaster** · 01-22-2005, 03:29 PM

My services arent needed here. This post is filled with great advice. Good Luck

FYI... the police officer used horrible procedure, with a decent lawyer you'll walk

**blackh2** · 01-22-2005, 03:36 PM

thanks again for the help. they also said the viagra and livitra i should get back since i had scripts for these allready. and i did check withy the hrt site that was in musqlar dev. and they said the blood work i allready had done was good enough and tey will prescribe me winnie. but that wont justify having the australian winnie but gurantee i will allways have the **** in the script bottle.

**Pale Horse** · 01-22-2005, 03:41 PM

He wasn't booked or proceesed or ticketed to document the stop? MMA...........

**Knight1811** · 01-22-2005, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by yikes!!

Agreed, I had a cop pull me over late in the night just fishing for someone to pull over....anyway, I was drinking and blew a 0.18 on the breathalizer and he found a bag of zanni's....went to court and my lawyer ate him up like he was a buffet.....no speeding ticket issued, no traffic citation what so ever....he was just happy to catch a drunk with drugs.....beat the stop and if you had a kilo of the white-horse in your car you would still get off.....GET A GOOD LAWYER!!....money is an issue but it's your freedom and career....good luck

Quick question: Did the cop ask for permission to search your car or was in incident to your arrest since you were DUI? There is a difference between giving permission and an involuntary search such as a search incident to arrest.

Knight1811

**MuscleQuest** · 01-22-2005, 04:14 PM

ok in canada before a cop can let you go he has to give you a notice to appear other wise he cannot pursue charges. in most cases they just confiscate the sh@t and let you go it means they're not pursuing. in canada they have to have probable cause to search your vehicle otherwise if they do it without permission they cannot charge you on it. i know a guy that had a loaded 9mm and about a 1000 worth of marijuana and they still couldn't charge him. they can pull you over anytime they want and right it off as a routine traffic stop or liscence and registration check. if i were you i would look into how and why your information was released to a law office without your consent.