Cutting

**gpapa1** · 01-25-2005, 02:56 AM

Can i succed in cutting with the following cycle?

Weeks 1-12 Test E 250 or 500mg/W
Weeks 8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
Nolva 10mg ED through the cycle and pct

Clen weeks 3,4,7,8,11,12 3 tabs three times daily

Cardio and proper diet
Pct
week 14 150mg ED
week 15 100mg ED
week 16 50mg ED

This is my second cycle the first was 500mg Test

Thanks

**redmeat** · 01-25-2005, 02:58 AM

test/winny sounds like a great cutter. Take and ECA stack on the weeks you're not using clen .

**james21** · 01-25-2005, 02:59 AM

looks good as long as your diet is STRICT

**Consistency** · 01-25-2005, 10:11 AM

move the winny to weeks 9-14 at 50mg ed. Diet plays the role in cutting

**bmwrob** · 01-25-2005, 10:29 AM

You can cut on just about anything. It's all about the diet and cardio.

**kuad** · 01-25-2005, 01:17 PM

why run the winny only for 4 weeks?
i was thinking of doing pretty much the same...
week 1-12 test 500mg
week 1-12 winny 50mg ed
nolva throughout
stats: 41yr/165lb/5'6"

**Consistency** · 01-25-2005, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by kuad

why run the winny only for 4 weeks?
i was thinking of doing pretty much the same...
week 1-12 test 500mg
week 1-12 winny 50mg ed
nolva throughout
stats: 41yr/165lb/5'6"

12 weeks of winny... goodbye liver

**Moosepellet** · 01-25-2005, 02:23 PM

I totally agree, never run winny more than 6wks. It would not be good on the liver.

**YouCanDoIt** · 01-25-2005, 04:06 PM

Dire consequences if winny over 6 weeks. Worst than cirrosis. What I heard.

**prolangtum** · 01-25-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by YouCanDoIt

Dire consequences if winny over 6 weeks. Worst than cirrosis. What I heard.

I think that is pushing it, as I have known people to run it 8-10 weeks. That being said, I myself would not push it past 6. You could always run winny for 6 and tren for 6.

**Stew** · 01-25-2005, 07:06 PM

Is doing test e just as good as test prop for cutting? Im thinking of doing prop. but test e would be better.......less injections.

**saluu** · 01-25-2005, 07:13 PM

exactly what i was about to say prop is better less bloat and the guys are right throw in winny at the end straight into pct and don't do winny longer than 6 weeks it is 17aa hard on the liver. you can gain bloat off test e i would take l dex or antiestrogen nolva or proviron i like proviron works better. but since your doing a cutter i would do prop test prop less bloat bro. sure less injections with test e but prop ed injections means blood levels stay constant and helps you get quick results with less bloat . prop and tren is a deadly cutting cycle bro underrated . try that one out and throw in test prop you will be ripped and hard as a rock dude

**Stew** · 01-26-2005, 06:56 AM

So test props what I'll do. 8 weeks out and throw in the winny 5 weeks out maybe 6. Oh yah I'll be doing var too, with some nolva alll the way through. Looks good?

**BDTR** · 01-26-2005, 07:05 AM

So let me get this straight, 12 weeks of winny will kill you?!?!? Just like that?!

Where do you all get your information from? Yes your liver panels will not look pretty at first glance but come on. The liver is a very very tough organ which can take quite some damange beofre it stops rejuivinating itself.

Is it advisable? No, but neither is steroid use to begin with. I mix and match 17aa's like those little jelly beans you get that make different flavors when you chew them at the same time. 4 weeks max? Come on, give me a break. As long as your bloodwork is good, there is no limit to how long you can go, plain and simple.

**gpapa1** · 01-27-2005, 09:47 AM

I don't have to wait little bit before i start my pct if i use test for 12 weeks and winny for 9-14week?

I mean i should start at the beggining of week 15 or to wailt?

Thanks bros

**james21** · 01-27-2005, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by bdtr

So let me get this straight, 12 weeks of winny will kill you?!?!? Just like that?!

Where do you all get your information from? Yes your liver panels will not look pretty at first glance but come on. The liver is a very very tough organ which can take quite some damange beofre it stops rejuivinating itself.

Is it advisable? No, but neither is steroid use to begin with. I mix and match 17aa's like those little jelly beans you get that make different flavors when you chew them at the same time. 4 weeks max? Come on, give me a break. As long as your bloodwork is good, there is no limit to how long you can go, plain and simple.

HAHA, that response was much needed, and I thank you for it.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-27-2005, 12:54 PM

go with prop and winny for ur cutter

1-10 prop 75mg ed
5-10 winny 50mg ed

u can always extend it or shorten it by a couple of weeks .... and remember strict diet and training is what will matter the most ... not the gear ... also remember proper PCT