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    Hows my cycle guys?

    ok, i thought i wasn't gonna start AS early but, i feel i know enough to be safe, from a lot of research. i have been liftin for 2 years, and rowing for 5. my stats are 6'3" 209 bf%-?. summer is fast approaching so my cycle is gonna be a cutter so here it is.

    week 1-10 eq 600mg/w
    week 1-10 cyp 250mg/w
    week 6-13 winny 50mg/d
    week 13-16 clomid

    it was gonna just be an EQ winny cycle but everyone here and others elsewhere seem to like basing their cycles on a test so i threw in the cyp. diet and training are in check, and of course the usual supps protein, glutamine, milkthistle, ALA, etc. nolvadex just in case, but probably wont need it.

    also, you guys think i will need arimidex , i don't think i should, but i would appreciate your inputs.

    i think that sums it up. all suggestions welcome

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    8 weeks on Winny is alittle bit long. I would cut it down to 6.
    You should also up the Cyp to 500mgs.
    Other then that it looks good. Use Armidex if you can.
    Goodluck

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    my bad, i only have 50 tabs anyway, i meant to put it in for 7 weeks, but if you think 6, do you think i can up it to like 75mgs for two weeks, so i don't have any left over?

    and will 250mgs of cyp do anything? or should i scratch it? i dunno if i could get another bottle to up it to 500

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    I agree that is a little long to run the winny. I'd stick to 6 weeks at 50mg a day-esp. considering this is your first cycle. The test would be way more effective at 500 a week IMO. As far as the arimidex ; I would say it's not necessary to run throughout long as you have some form of anti-estrogen on hand-which you said you did. Also if you wanted you could put some clen in there towards the end to really burn the fat and help maintain your gains. It works great if you run it alongside your clomid. Other than that it looks solid to me-good luck.

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    the winny is fine bro, 7weeks is not that long. people run winny only cycles for 8-10 weeks all the time w/no problems.drink plenty of water and use protectants. if thats all the test you can get,then run it.250mgs of test in this cycle a week is better than none .

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    thanks guys, any more suggestions?

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    winny: i'd go with 25mg/day for 8 weeks. it'll be better on your joints.

    also, i'd reverse the doses of cyp and eq. 600mg cyp, 250-300mg eq. the timing and everything else looks great though.

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    diesel: what would you recommend besides cyp? i can't get enth. cyp was all i could get, that or sust.

    and i am getting another bottle of cyp, so it will be 500 mgs/week.

    dr.evil: can you further explain the switching of the cyp and eq? i want to cut and get more quality muscle than gettin bigger.

    you guys are great btw

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    k, cool

    diesel: have you used cyp before? i have heard it would go well with the eq.

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    quasar, to be brief, test has broader effects on your physiology than does eq or any other steroid . eq's if pretty limited to just attaching to the androgen receptor and doesn't act anywhere else i.e. cortisol blocking, igf-1 inducing, etc. that test does.

    the "bulkiness" from test can be attributed to water gain. this can be solved simply by anti-estrogens. you get the same kind of muscle as eq. the "ripped" or lean look comes from genetics and diet/exercise.

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    I'm on my 5th week of cyp. now and haven't noticed any bloat whatsoever....

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    Dr.Evil: thanks, you never seem to amaze me with you replys, and your ability to help almost everyone on this board. sooo, how bout 400mg eq, and 500mg cyp? will i need arimidex now, or just have nolvadex on hand?

    Diesel: good luck on your cycle

    Hardcore: whats your cycle look like?

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    hahhaa i told you its his cycle!!!!!!!!! liar

    damnit i wanna juice so bad,WTF
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    u got no will power Quesar or NO DAM WILL POWER!!!!!!
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    I KNOOOOOOOW, I CAN'T HELP IT!!!!!!

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    but seriously,i have been workin out for a while, and i feel i am ready.

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    hey if u got $ give me some?????? i need liquidex:/

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    sure how much you need....just tell me where you live and where you keep your roids, and i will drop off the money. lol

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    well D00fy since no one else is answerin anything now, do you think i will need arimidex for my cycle, or just have nolvadex on hand?

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    yah ,nolvadex especially your probably using ** stuff ,but if u can get arimidex use .25mg ed just to be safe

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    thanks guys

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    bump.....just to get some more suggestions.

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