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    Exclamation New cycle for older guy

    Hi I am thinking of running this. I am 230 lbs, 5'11" with about 12% bf. I have been training for 30 years, used to own a body building gym and have been around. I am 44 years old and have done a few cycles over the years.

    Week 1 - 4 test prop 50 mg amp ed
    Week 1 - 12 250 mg of deca a week
    Week 1 - 13 250 mg of sust 250 per week or up to 500 mg if 250 is not enough, not sure on this
    Week 14 - 16 test prop 50 mg amp ed
    week 17 test prop 50 mg eod
    week 18 - 20 PCT

    In addition I am doing 4 IU's of hgh per day and will probably lower to 2 or 3 IU's in a few weeks.

    Please let me know your thoughts. I am looking for some size maybe 8 to 10 lbs solid. Less water retention, the last cycle my face looked awful, very puffy. I am looking for as little crash as possible.
    Thanks for your help!
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    Mate post this in the Steroid Forum, you will get more responses there. I think its OK but I would up to Sust to 500mg per weeek and the Deca to 400mg / week. I would think about using Anavar at the end instead of Prop as well.

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    how long havn t u been cycling? I wouldn t use deca , I would rather u test e and may be grwoth hormone - u r 44 years old, proly can use it for hrt reasons too.

    if u use test e, use proscar to protect ur prostate! and watch ur blood pressure...

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    Thanks Sean.
    XXX. I did several cycles in the late 80's and eary 90's took a 10 year break and started again last year. I was thinking about deca for my joints but I also don't want to ruin my main joint. I used test e last year on a cycle and liked it but I retained too much water that is why I was going to try the sust 250.
    thanks for you help!

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    I wouldn t use sust, if u r prone to retain water. it s gonna be much worse than with test e! and u will have to shoot eod.

    I would go for 250mg test e e5d and may be 2 iu of gh.

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    thanks xxx!!!!

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    yeah, give up the sust...its redundant. I also get bad water retention. Try some letro or liquidex for the bloat.

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    Deca is a good choice espaically for and older guy like your self !!! good luck.!

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