Here it is....Cycle Number 3...Help Critique Needed

**moush** · 03-03-2005, 06:37 PM

Hey bros I have been off for about 7 months now. My stats are 5'8" 210 lbs. Been doing cardio 30-45 min 5 times a week for the past 3-4 months. I have dropped significant bf...although i was hoping for a lil more but its ok. Here is my planned cycle...
wk 1-18 Test E 500mg
Wk 1-17 Eq 400mg
wk 8-18 Tren E 400 mg

Nolvadex at 10mg ED and l-dex at .25mg EOD...b/c my last cycle of Test E and Eq the l-dex at .25 Ed gave me joint probs it dried me out too much.

PCT with clomid, nolvadex, creatine, and trib

I would like to use HCG for this cycle but I am not too sure how it works. When do i take it? For how long? How often? Can i mix it with my juice? How much do i need (total)? If anyone has a good thread they can take me to to read up on that would be great! Also please let me know how my cycle looks. Thanks guys.

**fitnessNY** · 03-03-2005, 06:44 PM

I would stop the EQ and tren at week 16. You could even run prop the last 2 weeks to keep you levels steady prior to pct instead of waiting 2 weeks w/eth.

Otherwise looks good!

**moush** · 03-03-2005, 06:53 PM

ok so if i ran it like this.....

wk 1-18 Test E 500mg
wk 1-16 Eq 400mg
wk 6-16 Tren E 400mg

I would do prop but im not a fan of ED injects so....

**TheMudMan** · 03-03-2005, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by moush

ok so if i ran it like this.....

wk 1-18 Test E 500mg
wk 1-16 Eq 400mg
wk 6-16 Tren E 400mg

I would do prop but im not a fan of ED injects so....

I would bump the EQ up to the test at 500mg /wk...... but the rest looks good and I agree with fitnessNY about adding Prop at the end of the cycle........ so 75mg ED weeks 19 - to at least 20 and PCT start 3 days later.

Also I would add 10mg Nolva ED and 1.25mg Letro EOD through the cycle.

**moush** · 03-03-2005, 07:49 PM

hey mudman, my last cycle was test e 500mg and eq 400mg....I ran 10mg nolva ed and .25 ldex ed and i had problems with my joints drying out...

anybody help me out with HCG ??? anyone? should i be concerned with using HCG?

**moush** · 03-03-2005, 11:05 PM

does anyone help out with cycles anymore....it seems as though this board has changed since i got here.....

**moush** · 03-04-2005, 08:23 AM

cmon guys.....someone help me out

**TheMudMan** · 03-04-2005, 08:31 AM

If your joints were bothering you on your last cycle which IMO shouldn't have effected your joints too much then you could throw in a little deca like 200mg a week. Or don't use EQ if it gets that bad for you.

Yeah HCG would be a good idea for this cycle........ You could start HCG week 10 to 19 at 500iu 2 times a week.

**moush** · 03-04-2005, 01:30 PM

if i throw in the HCG do can i mix it with the juice or does it have to be a separate inject?

**TheMudMan** · 03-04-2005, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by moush

if i throw in the HCG do can i mix it with the juice or does it have to be a separate inject?

Seperate injection. SubQ injection

**moush** · 03-04-2005, 01:41 PM

so do you inject it like you would GH? in the stomach area?

**TheMudMan** · 03-04-2005, 01:44 PM

if you do it subq yes you can inject in your stomach area........ IF you do IM injections with HCG then you wouldn't inject in that area you would inject into a muscle.

**moush** · 03-04-2005, 04:19 PM

wait im confuded...you said to do HCG subQ and now your saying you can do it IM?? so then i can mix it with the gear and do it IM...right?

**mark956101957** · 03-04-2005, 04:55 PM

You can do hcg IM or SubQ either way. I also would recommend prop that last two weeks and you would be ok doing it EOD

**moush** · 03-04-2005, 07:08 PM

so hows this look:

wk 1-18 Test E 500mg
wk 1-16 Eq 500mg
wk 6-16 Tren E 400mg
HCG wk 10-19 500iu 2x/wk
Nolva 10mg ED
L-dex 1.25mg EOD

PCT Clomid 300/100/50 and Nolva 20 mg ED and Trib 5g ED

**moush** · 03-05-2005, 08:45 PM

bump

**littleguns** · 03-05-2005, 08:53 PM

it looks like a good cycle but i would run it for 14 weeks not 18...

**moush** · 03-05-2005, 09:48 PM

why 14? i ran my second cycle at 17 wks

**moush** · 03-06-2005, 03:23 PM

anyone have any opinions or comments? i want this cycle to be the best one yet!

**moush** · 03-06-2005, 10:31 PM

do you guys think I can get away without using HCG ? the reason i ask is because when i would begin to use HCG i would be home and i dont have a place to store it in the fridge to keep it away from the rents.....what do you guys thingk?