Serious Cycle Layout Please Discuss

[juiceinthehood]

HERES MY NEW LAYOUT goals on this one are are lean mass and serious definition and extreme hardness (the ripped looked) 190 5,9' 13-15% b/f 4 cycles. please comment and ask questions id like to discuss this cycle a bit it took me awile to decide on it. thanx bros

weeks
-4-10 primo 200mg eod
-4-10 eq 200mg e3d
1-4 winni 50mg ed
1-12 prop 100mg eod
1-12 var 60mg ed
7-12 masteron 120mg eod
9-12 winni 50mg ed
-4-1 clen /keto 60-80-100-80
5-8 clen/keto 80-100-120-100
13-16 clen/keto 100-120-140-100
1-4 hcg 500iu 1x a week
9-12 hcg 500iu 1x a week
1-12 nolva 10mg ed
13-16 nolva 20mg ed
13-14 clomid 100mg ed
15-16 clomid 50mg ed
im starting primo and eq 4 weeks before the prop and var to get a full 14 weeks of both i guess a frontload of primo and eq for 4 weeks also will take the clen during this front load. it looks awesome to me and some guys at 2 of the gyms i go to so what do u guys think

[juiceinthehood]

im also taking
finestride, thistle, taurine, b-5, primrose oil, lots of vits.

[MuscleQuest]

don't run anything without test. start the eq at the same time as the prop and extend the prop to 15 weeks. do the eq for 12 - 13. that's a pretty low dose of prop also. i think you should decrease the # of gear used and put your money on proper doses for the right length. just my 2 cents. my want some ldex in there.

[juiceinthehood]

don't run anything without test. start the eq at the same time as the prop and extend the prop to 15 weeks. do the eq for 12 - 13. that's a pretty low dose of prop also. i think you should decrease the # of gear used and put your money on proper doses for the right length. just my 2 cents. my want some ldex in there.

it will be fine to frontload the eq and primo bro. and the doses are proper remember gear does different things to different ppl. i grow on low doses the diet and training are whats important not pumping urself with high doses of roids.

[juiceinthehood]

i also feel this is an ultimate cutter without such high side effects

[saluu]

throw in some more juice and let me know when you get a liver transplant beside the roid monkey , use test i like eq, winny, anavar and test when you throwin 8 different roids you dont necessarily get a better effect than using three or 4 compounds reminds me of that video of that guy who almost died . if you wanna cut and get ripped eat smart and get your self some good nike shoes and start running in the jungle next to sallu the monkey. people call me weird but i think im just a little different .

[UrbanLegend]

people call me weird but i think im just a little different .

[Billy_Bathgate]

that is not a good cycle

thats way too much junk..you dont need all that. your 190 man, not 290

the prop looks fine
ditch the eq and primo
run either var then masteron , winny then masteron, or vice versa of either..dont run var and winny, dont run winny and masteron at the same time

you seem to have the idea all this stuff will rip you

jsut get a good diet, cut the cals, and add a simple cycle to harden up a bit and retain the mass

[juiceinthehood]

diff. drugs have diff. effects the compounds im using all compliment each other and are fairly lite compared to others

[Billy_Bathgate]

you need to research more. thats about one of the crappiest cycles ive seen. your pluggin in what you think youve read is great to cut with. they have slightly different effect

they all compliment each other huh..ok prove it to me since you know all about them

[juiceinthehood]

have u guys seen mallets cycle its insane massive amounts of diff. gear why is that okay.

[juiceinthehood]

you need to research more. thats about one of the crappiest cycles ive seen. your pluggin in what you think youve read is great to cut with. they have slightly different effect

they all compliment each other huh..ok prove it to me since you know all about them

i have done my research. have you

[Billy_Bathgate]

i wouldnt be a mod if i havent been

[Billy_Bathgate]

so if youve done so much research, tell me why this is good again

not "because mallet is"

tell me why you think you should run 2 17-aa together, why you should run 2 stong DHT derivatives together, why you would run eq and primo without test

like i said..research

[Billy_Bathgate]

have u guys seen mallets cycle its insane massive amounts of diff. gear why is that okay.

wow...

lets see

15 or 20 cycles to date??? that's over 7 years...

Right now I've finished doing some leaning out with dnp, so I'm sitiing around 250lbs at 6'1"...I'm aiming for the 280-290 mark this time around, It looks like were gonna have a strongman contest up in my town again this year if Hugo will stop being an ego maniac and not charge so much for his guest appearance?...My training partner has access to the strongman camp up here so it looks like i'll be doiong alot of farmers walking and log pressing, **** i hate the atlas stones!!! lol...oh well it's an amateur event so it shouldn't be to hard for me to place high. Unless I die during this cycle???

and then you...

lean mass and serious definition and extreme hardness (the ripped looked) 190 5,9' 13-15% b/f 4 cycles

...notice anything there???

[Billy_Bathgate]

if you wanna waste your money, potentially jeopordize your health, all for a poorly designed cycle

**** it go ahead

but all the other people that are here to learn, can read this and learn from it

[Billy_Bathgate]

and next time before you wanna call out a mod and ask them if they've done their research, think twice so you dont look like a jack ass again

[sol]

SNAP!!

[juiceinthehood]

i am using test read again

[Billy_Bathgate]

i am using test read again

im starting primo and eq 4 weeks before the prop

keep diggin your hole deeper

[joevette]

Wow, that's alot of random compounds. You'd be better off for the money dropping the primo and adding some T3 to your clen cycle and even some IGF-1 LR3. Primo is too expensive and pretty much worthless IMO. No need for EQ, either. I'd stick with Test prop, Var, masteron , clen, T3 and only run the var the last 8 weeks. Keep it at 12 weeks total and you won't need any HCG . Also, running clen during pct is fine, but I wouldn't try to cut during pct as far as your diet goes.

[taiboxa]

Wow, that's alot of random compounds. You'd be better off for the money dropping the primo and adding some T3 to your clen cycle and even some IGF-1 LR3. Primo is too expensive and pretty much worthless IMO. No need for EQ, either. I'd stick with Test prop, Var, masteron, clen, T3 and only run the var the last 8 weeks. Keep it at 12 weeks total and you won't need any HCG. Also, running clen during pct is fine, but I wouldn't try to cut during pct as far as your diet goes.

yeah... cutting pct will seriously jeoperdize lean mass
and Prop/Var/Mast is a pimp combo

[joevette]

yeah... cutting pct will seriously jeoperdize lean mass
and Prop/Var/Mast is a pimp combo

What's with the ? You don't like the prop/var/mast cycle?

[juiceinthehood]

thanks joe for the first serious reply everyone else has been basically bashing this post i have used all these compounds b-4 and like them all so i wanted to do a cycle consisting of all this gear compared to the cycles that some do this is lightweight

[Consistency]

The winny is not run long enough
The EQ is not run long enough
Like they all said ditch a few compounds, and run 3 or 4 of them at the proper lengths and doses.
Seems like your just throwing stuff in there randomly for 3-4 weeks at a time.

[juiceinthehood]

The winny is not run long enough
The EQ is not run long enough
Like they all said ditch a few compounds, and run 3 or 4 of them at the proper lengths and doses.
Seems like your just throwing stuff in there randomly for 3-4 weeks at a time.

the eq and primo are 14 weeks the winni is run a total of 8 weeks 4 weeks front end 4 weeks back end

[taiboxa]

What's with the ? You don't like the prop/var/mast cycle?

is my happy face damit!
i take it u dont hang out in the lounge enuff or you woulda known this

[joevette]

is my happy face damit!
i take it u dont hang out in the lounge enuff or you woulda known this

Oh ok, no I don't think I've even been in the lounge before

[taiboxa]

Oh ok, no I don't think I've even been in the lounge before

im hijacking this thread while i got your attention... if i take EQ ED w/ my prop inplace of 3.5day split would it have any affect on its effectiveness...?

[Consistency]

[QUOTE=juiceinthehood]the eq and primo are 14 weeks the winni is run a total of 8 weeks 4 weeks front end 4 weeks back end


Oh I see, the EQ is started a week "minus 4" gotcha. I would still run the winny 6 straight weeks

[joevette]

im hijacking this thread while i got your attention... if i take EQ ED w/ my prop inplace of 3.5day split would it have any affect on its effectiveness...?

I don't think it would make much difference, but I don't think EQ is very effective anyway. Maybe look into bold ace if you want to shoot it ed with prop.

[taiboxa]

I don't think it would make much difference, but I don't think EQ is very effective anyway. Maybe look into bold ace if you want to shoot it ed with prop.

aye ty

[juiceinthehood]

thanks guys any more comments

[Billy_Bathgate]

thanks joe for the first serious reply everyone else has been basically bashing this post i have used all these compounds b-4 and like them all so i wanted to do a cycle consisting of all this gear compared to the cycles that some do this is lightweight

are you going to cry now?

everyone has said the same thing i have..you dont need all that crap

if you would actually research, it would be obvious why its not a good idea

[juiceinthehood]

are you going to cry now?

everyone has said the same thing i have..you dont need all that crap

if you would actually research, it would be obvious why its not a good idea

i did my research pal. and no im not going to cry
maybe since ur a "mod' you should be more helpful and not start bashing my post just cause ur a mod does not give u the right to respond to my post the way u did from start.

[Billy_Bathgate]

obviously you havent done your research.

lets see

1) you want to frontload EQ and Primo..first off is a waste frontloading those drugs
2) when you do frontload, you want to run it 4wks without test
3) your 190 lbs yet you think you need high doses because another member who is shooting for the 290 area is
4) your running var for 12wks, 2 4 week courses of winstrol on top of that
5) running two dht derivatives at once
6)

i also feel this is an ultimate cutter without such high side effects

my first reply was

that is not a good cycle

thats way too much junk..you dont need all that. your 190 man, not 290

the prop looks fine
ditch the eq and primo
run either var then masteron , winny then masteron, or vice versa of either..dont run var and winny, dont run winny and masteron at the same time

you seem to have the idea all this stuff will rip you

jsut get a good diet, cut the cals, and add a simple cycle to harden up a bit and retain the mass

keep it coming

[Billy_Bathgate]

diff. drugs have diff. effects the compounds im using all compliment each other and are fairly lite compared to others

k..since youve "done your research"

lets here it

why is it a good idea to have 2 orals going, why it is a good idea to run winny and masteron when they are so chemically similar????? and why the hell would you front load primo and eq without even having test...this will be a good one

[juiceinthehood]

k..since youve "done your research"

lets here it

why is it a good idea to have 2 orals going, why it is a good idea to run winny and masteron when they are so chemically similar????? and why the hell would you front load primo and eq without even having test...this will be a good one

after reading hookers new winni profile i think im dropping it.
and im frontloading the eq and primo to get a full 14 weeks on them without extending the cycle and so pct lines up
why is it a problem to front eq and primo two light compounds primo virtually has very little effect on ur hpta if any and eq is also lite on the hpta from what i have read. will it really be a problem to run primo and eq for 4 weeks before i start the test.
you seem to want to argue whats ur problem! im here to discuss this being that it is a steroid discussion board thats what we do here. is it that hard to be helpful without being so freekin rude.

[Mesomorphyl]

I want juice just to pick a d@mn cycle already... Half of all his posts are his next cycle... Please pick a cycle and do it this time...

Meso has lots of love for juice juice dont feel insulted cause meso just wants you to start already and put on your nikes and run through the jungle with saluu the roid monkey...

[juiceinthehood]

I want juice just to pick a d@mn cycle already... Half of all his posts are his next cycle... Please pick a cycle and do it this time...

Meso has lots of love for juice juice dont feel insulted cause meso just wants you to start already and put on your nikes and run through the jungle with saluu the roid monkey...

hahaha. to be honest i have always done plain jane cycles and i was looking for something diff. something complicated. meso u have seen my other cycle layouts and there were fairly good cycles.
i just want to do something diff. to get my physique to a diff. level.