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    Opinions on this cut/bulk cycle

    hello ! Im so new on this board...

    25 years old
    85-90 kg
    173 cm
    10-15 % BF

    2 cycles in my past. one with some really good results and one that vent by without nothing..(?)


    Im planning a cut/bulk cycle... Something like this.

    1-33 HCG .............500 iu E3D
    1-11 testo ENA.....500 mg
    1-11 parabolan .....300 mg
    1-11 arimidex ........0,5 mg ED (or is it OK to take 1 mg EOD)
    2-11 T3...............100 mcg
    1-11 clenbuterol ....140 mcg 2 w on/2 w off
    12-20 d-bol...........10 mg ED
    21-36 testo ENA.....550 mg
    21-35 deca ............460 mg
    21-35 EQ...............460 mg

    first 11 weeks im on ca 2000 kcal mostlet proteins and fat (200-250 gram of carbs at the most)

    then I will upper the kcal a bit for week 12-20

    then start bulking week 21. Somewhere around 5000 kcal.

    So what do u think.. BTW this board rocks!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasy
    hello ! Im so new on this board...

    25 years old
    85-90 kg
    173 cm
    10-15 % BF

    2 cycles in my past. one with some really good results and one that vent by without nothing..(?)


    Im planning a cut/bulk cycle... Something like this.

    1-11 testo ENA.....500 mg
    1-11 parabolan .....300 mg
    1-11 arimidex ........0,5 mg ED (or is it OK to take 1 mg EOD)
    2-11 T3...............100 mcg
    1-11 clenbuterol ....140 mcg 2 w on/2 w off
    12-20 d-bol...........10 mg ED
    21-36 testo ENA.....550 mg
    21-35 deca ............460 mg
    21-35 EQ...............460 mg

    first 11 weeks im on ca 2000 kcal mostlet proteins and fat (200-250 gram of carbs at the most)

    then I will upper the kcal a bit for week 12-20

    then start bulking week 21. Somewhere around 5000 kcal.

    So what do u think.. BTW this board rocks!!
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    Never did a cycle like this, skipping test and then going back. Why deca and eq both? Bump for more opinions.

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    LOL dood bridging w/ dbol .. and that run time? just run prop all the way through it... and piss on the bridge it will do more harm than good and in all honesty i would bulk first then cut dont want to end this damn thing w/ water bloat
    btw
    my bridge is eq/prop

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    LOL dood bridging w/ dbol .. and that run time? just run prop all the way through it... and piss on the bridge it will do more harm than good and in all honesty i would bulk first then cut dont want to end this damn thing w/ water bloat
    btw
    my bridge is eq/prop

    *the d-bol is no problem only 10 mg ED for 8 weeks...
    *.. Its summer now and I dont want to be bloated now. then when I start bulking I dont mind water at all. I dont se a problem with that. Water can be good.
    *i dont like prop.. prefer enanthate .
    * I use EQ to get more apetite (to be able to eat more i mean)

    BTW im not on steroid so that I can look good on the beach. My goal is to compete in -85 kg BB

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    IMO the bridge is pointless your already shut down and your barely getting anything outta 10mg DBOL ... so you could possibly go catabolic during that time frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Never did a cycle like this, skipping test and then going back. Why deca and eq both? Bump for more opinions.

    whats up with skipping test and then go back? do U think its better to be on test week 1-35 ?

    maybe just stick with that and skip the d-bol bridge..? go with 500 mg EW week 12-20 to..

    Like this..

    1-33 HCG .............500 iu E3D
    1-35 testo ENA.....500 mg
    1-11 parabolan .....300 mg
    1-11 arimidex ........0,5 mg ED (or is it OK to take 1 mg EOD)
    2-11 T3...............100 mcg
    1-11 clenbuterol ....140 mcg 2 w on/2 w off
    21-35 deca ............460 mg
    21-35 EQ...............460 mg

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    no what you do is you drop the test down during that time to HRT lvl where its just slightly above norm or a lil higher say maybe 250mg week for that bridge and if you want i guess you could throw in some light dbol (i wouldnt)
    and running hcg through out whole cycle can have some adverse affects...
    best off running it every 6-7th week for a 1 week hit of ED shots of 500-750
    then run it about same dose 14 days out from pct for days 1-10 and then let it retire from the system the last 4 days prior to starting pct.

    im runnin a 30+wker right now kinda like
    wks 1-10 prop@100mgED Eq@600+mg wk
    wks 11-23 prop 125mgED/Tren75mgED/Eq600mgWk
    wks 24-32 prop 100mgED/Var 50mg ED/ Eq 600mgWk stopping 3wks prior pct
    running HCG every 7th week @ 500iusED for 5-7 days and and also from wk 31 to halfway through wk 32

    gonna try to incorp some slin/lr3 in pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    running HCG every 7th week @ 500iusED for 5-7 days and and also from wk 31 to halfway through wk 32

    good point there about the test.
    HCG recomendatin was very welcome!! thanx-

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasy
    good point there about the test.
    HCG recomendatin was very welcome!! thanx-
    no prob hcg has always confused me so i researched hell outta it...
    and im not saying take my advice for it was just a compilation of all the info i found to best suit my needs....
    you should research and make your own assumption...

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    I've used hcg @ 500iu E3D with pleasant results.. but for 20 weeks at the most.

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