First Cycle Questions

**Swifto** · 06-13-2005, 01:17 PM

First cycle will commence in around 2-3 weeks.

1-12 Test Enan/Cyp 500mg/wk (250mg E3.5 Days)
1-4 Tbol 40mg/ED
1-12 Nolva 10mg/ED

PCT

14-16 Clomid 100mg/ED
16-18 Clomid 50mg/ED
14-18 Nolva 20mg/ED
14-18 Creatine 5g/ED
14-18 Tribulas 3g/ED

Also include all normal supplements during the cycle such as:

Flax Seed Oil
1000mg Vit C
Milk Thistle
Mult-Vit
Weight Gainer shakes...

They questions I have are:

- Run the Tbol for first 4 weeks to kickstart or last 6 weeks running to PCT?

- Run Dbol instead of Tbol?

- 40mg/ED ok to start on Tbol?

I am certain I haven't missed anything. May be some Arimedex to combat bloat. But at 7% I doubt it will be a problem?

**Consistency** · 06-13-2005, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I am certain I haven't missed anything. May be some Arimedex to combat bloat. But at 7% I doubt it will be a problem?

the lower the BF the more noticeable bloat is... some people bloat bad some dont...

**Swifto** · 06-13-2005, 01:27 PM

Bump!

**Swifto** · 06-13-2005, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

the lower the BF the more noticeable bloat is... some people bloat bad some dont...

Ok, I was'nt aware of this. So you think its deffinitely worth gettin some Arimidex .

Would you still continue to run Nolvadex with the Arimidex also, or just use one?

**Consistency** · 06-13-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Ok, I was'nt aware of this. So you think its deffinitely worth gettin some Arimidex .

Would you still continue to run Nolvadex with the Arimidex also, or just use one?

arimdex helps with bloat more then nolva. I would just choose one unless you are prone to gyno then in that case run them both because they do 2 different things.

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-13-2005, 01:36 PM

run the orals in the first 4 weeks. as far as tbol vs. dbol ....its reaally up to you and what you want.40mged of either is fine,

**Swifto** · 06-13-2005, 01:38 PM

I'll stick with the Nolva and if bloat becomes a serious issue I will get some from my source.

Any ideas on the Tbol questions?

**tempbrit** · 06-13-2005, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

the lower the BF the more noticeable bloat is... some people bloat bad some dont...

I am running Test Cyp right now along with Tren and my bodyfat is just below 8%. However, the bloat has gotten steadily worse (more noticeable as the cycle progressed and as my bodyfat has dropped.

Consistency is correct about the bloat being more noticeable if you are lean. I am using Letro to get rid of the water.

**Swifto** · 06-13-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by tempbrit

I am running Test Cyp right now along with Tren and my bodyfat is just below 8%. However, the bloat has gotten steadily worse (more noticeable as the cycle progressed and as my bodyfat has dropped.

Consistency is correct about the bloat being more noticeable if you are lean. I am using Letro to get rid of the water.

Thanks for your info.