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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    I have recovered from each, indivdually and TOGETHER. I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE....not from data...
    You speak from experience, not data? WTF does that mean...it's like....

    I speak from knowledge, not from wisdom...


    HOOKER--i missed ya bro..whats good
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    Yo...whats good...same ol' same ol' here...

    I guess, like everyone else in this thread, I'm waiting for someone to come along and ban you....

    I don't know if the other mods stay up as late as me, though...

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    East European olympians did quite well on three week cycles of T-bol.......at very low doses......and these were world class athletes (I know alot of you guys can't relate to athletes)........read the Charlie Francis article on steroids in sport.

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    Hold On!

    HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON

    I am not asking to CHANGE anything..

    No paradigm shift is ocurring here....simply saying that for those wishing to avoid testosterone side-effects, there are viable alternatives.

    Also, there are NEW DRUGS.

    REMEMEBER things change....in Arnies day, they took dbol for months on end with no PCT...

    Things change...TBOL is one of them.

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    i thought u were a mod hooker

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    Hooker.....seems that estrogen keeps the lipids in order......couldn't you be running the same risk using test with a big load of let to minimize the estrogen sides??......doesn't any anti-e negatively affect the lipids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    Lets just all be friends..

    I don't KNOW IT ALL.....I know nothing actually...


    Just sharing my experiences.



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    Hooker

    Captain, I see you have been snuffed on your profiles. Don't sweat it, KNOWLEDGE should be free--put them back up buddy.

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    I agree people are slow to change until Johnny Supermod says it is ok. I don't see the reason for the flaming, but I haven't been around here much. I don't see too many intelligent rebuttals either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON

    I am not asking to CHANGE anything..

    No paradigm shift is ocurring here....simply saying that for those wishing to avoid testosterone side-effects, there are viable alternatives.

    Also, there are NEW DRUGS.

    REMEMEBER things change....in Arnies day, they took dbol for months on end with no PCT...

    Things change...TBOL is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    Lets just all be friends..

    I don't KNOW IT ALL.....I know nothing actually...


    Just sharing my experiences.

    your an assh0le and nobody wants to be friends with an assh0le..

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    Try to have a decent conversation.......and then the big retarted pictures come up..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerman
    Hooker.....seems that estrogen keeps the lipids in order......couldn't you be running the same risk using test with a big load of let to minimize the estrogen sides??......doesn't any anti-e negatively affect the lipids?
    Anti-E's given to breast cancer patients have shown some improvement in lipid levels in breast cancer patients. They, however, aren't stacking, test, var, winny, etc. on top of their treatment. Rely on Nolvadex if you want to...........................................

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    Loz

    Loz--there are merely NO rebuttals.


    Furthermore, there is really nothign to dispute. Its a FACT--Test does not have to be the base of your cycle--although it can, and works VERY WELL. As does Tren and TBOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    Captain, I see you have been snuffed on your profiles. Don't sweat it, KNOWLEDGE should be free--put them back up buddy.
    lozgod.. its comments like this is why he gets flamed.. i dont know why you gusy even bother debating with him.. there is never any progress made cause Ross knows everything.

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    Although Tren is highly supressive, so it should be combined with Tbol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deezuhl
    lozgod.. its comments like this is why he gets flamed.. i dont know why you gusy even bother debating with him.. there is never any progress made cause Ross knows everything.
    My goal isn't trying to change Ross, my goal is to take a shot at knowing something new today that I didn't know yesterday. I talk to Philadelphia's worst whino's on the street if they sound like they are saying something that could possibly be sensible even if I don't agree with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerman
    Try to have a decent conversation.......and then the big retarted pictures come up..........
    there is no decent conversation with ross. with 2k posts you should know this.. why argue to teach someone that already knows everything??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    You speak from experience, not data? WTF does that mean...it's like....

    I speak from knowledge, not from wisdom...


    ?

    Yo...whats good...same ol' same ol' here...

    I guess, like everyone else in this thread, I'm waiting for someone to come along and ban you....

    I don't know if the other mods stay up as late as me, though...
    ****....I thought you were a mod.
    you should be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    My goal isn't trying to change Ross, my goal is to take a shot at knowing something new today that I didn't know yesterday. I talk to Philadelphia's worst whino's on the street if they sound like they are saying something that could possibly be sensible even if I don't agree with it.

    well i know about 5% of what you know and honestly i wouldn't take anything that come sout of ross's mouth to the bank anyway cause he is a dick. period

    I'll stick to advice and info from someone who gives respect and credit when it due.

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    Why do you assume that I "Know everything"....I have never intended to come off arrogant.

    Consider some of my ideas. Ask questions where you are confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    Although Tren is highly supressive, so it should be combined with Tbol..

    WTF? Tren will lower your endogenous test to 0....now I know you think that Tbol will raise it, but that's simply a reflection of Tbol's ability to bind to SHBG...which is a moot point if there's no test in your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deezuhl
    well i know about 5% of what you know and honestly i wouldn't take anything that come sout of ross's mouth to the bank anyway cause he is a dick. period

    I'll stick to advice and info from someone who gives respect and credit when it due.
    In all honesty I am now curious to know if Turinabol is really effective enough to raise libido while on suppresive compounds. I will research it now until I am convinced one way or the other. Then I will have learned something new.

    Discussions with people you disagree with are very enlightening with an open mind.

    Smart man talks, wise man listens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerman
    Try to have a decent conversation.......and then the big retarted pictures come up..........

    Does it f**ken bother you that much??

    Descent conversation with who? The big headed cocky punk Ross?
    Last edited by WildCh1ld; 06-24-2005 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dive_kid
    ****....I thought you were a mod.
    you should be

    I am...I'm just too lazy to go into the Mod CP and ban someone...the only person I ever banned from here was Bask8kace, for 24 hours and KingOfMasters for 2 years. One came back, the other has 1 year and 11 months left.....

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    would someone please y would anyone come back somewhere they were not wanted sounds like a dumb $hit if u asked me

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    WTF? Tren will lower your endogenous test to 0....now I know you think that Tbol will raise it, but that's simply a reflection of Tbol's ability to bind to SHBG...which is a moot point if there's no test in your body.

    HOOKER--are you insane?


    EVEN if YOUR TESTOSERONE production is ZERO--you still have SHBG which is still BOUND to TEST! You NEVER have ZERO test concentrations. You have TONS of test--it is simply bound. HENCE, even whilst on a cycle, TURINABOL will increase LIBIDO--through other mechanisms MEDIATED OTHER than simply increasing free T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    My goal isn't trying to change Ross, my goal is to take a shot at knowing something new today that I didn't know yesterday. I talk to Philadelphia's worst whino's on the street if they sound like they are saying something that could possibly be sensible even if I don't agree with it.
    a lot of people here would listen.....but he has nothing to back it up.
    its like saying "crakc will put on 20 lbs/ week. trust me ive done it"
    he posted a bunch of info that was toren apart by the mods here.
    I think we are all up for something better but research talks

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    I am...I'm just too lazy to go into the Mod CP and ban someone...the only person I ever banned from here was Bask8kace, for 24 hours and KingOfMasters for 2 years. One came back, the other has 1 year and 11 months left.....

    Just do it! do it!

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    I respect the fact that Hooker allows intelligent discourse before he bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerman
    Hooker.....seems that estrogen keeps the lipids in order......couldn't you be running the same risk using test with a big load of let to minimize the estrogen sides??......doesn't any anti-e negatively affect the lipids?

    Short answer: yes with a but....

    Long answer: no with a maybe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    I respect the fact that Hooker allows intelligent discourse before he bans.
    actually he said that hes just too lazy... lol

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    cant handel any more....................good night

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    Quote Originally Posted by dive_kid
    cant handel any more....................good night

    Same here good night........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Var
    I respect the fact that Hooker allows intelligent discourse before he bans.

    I banned them for being Ass-Clowns, not for disagreeing with me...

    They happened to also be incorrect with alot* of what they were saying....

    (*most of it actually)

    One of them claims to be some kind of doctor or something...the other likes to tell people that medical studies* aren't really that important...

    (*after looking stupid because study after study was produced to show he was wrong in his various posts)

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    LOL sorry had to post in this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Anti-E's given to breast cancer patients have shown some improvement in lipid levels in breast cancer patients. They, however, aren't stacking, test, var, winny, etc. on top of their treatment. Rely on Nolvadex if you want to...........................................
    Nolvadex works well for lipid profile?......see I thought the drugs like that and let were bad for lipids because the estrogen kept the profile balanced. wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Short answer: yes with a but....

    Long answer: no with a maybe....
    Lipid profile maintenance somewhat of a mystery or individual thing??

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    Badger:

    Read This.


    It's all about ancillary compounds (*nolvadex , letro, etc...) and includes information on their effect on your lipid profile (cholesterol), etc...

    It's kind of older and I know more now and have written better stuff on this topic...but I think you'll get the idea from that article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerman
    Nolvadex works well for lipid profile?......see I thought the drugs like that and let were bad for lipids because the estrogen kept the profile balanced. wrong?
    There has never been a study using it in conjunction with AAS to find lipid consequenses.

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    that was an interesting read.

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