08-01-2005, 09:58 PM #1
How big can you stay off the gear?
Ive done 2 cycles myself, and want to know how much bigger I can really get and hold that weight with my natty test?
08-01-2005, 11:44 PM #2
How much muscle do YOU normally retain?
08-01-2005, 11:47 PM #3
20 lb 2 months after pct
08-01-2005, 11:48 PM #4
IMO it's an individual event.
Depends on a lot of variables too.
Genetics..training...diet..rest...etc. in addition to natty test levels...as these other factors affect natty test levels.
What do you use when you're off?
For some, 'off' means slin/igf-1/gh/t3
For other 'off' means var/prohormones/creatine...
And for others 'off' means...nothing but food and non-hormonal supps.
What does 'off' mean to YOU?
08-01-2005, 11:51 PM #5
off cycle i use, creatine, alot of glutamine, multi, and 320 grams protein daily.
08-01-2005, 11:54 PM #6
i am just tryin to find out what the average is, i mean i know its an individual thing, but just in order to get an idea, you know what i mean?
08-02-2005, 12:45 AM #7Originally Posted by Narkissos
08-02-2005, 12:51 AM #8Originally Posted by rodge nl.
08-02-2005, 12:54 AM #9Member
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08-02-2005, 12:54 AM #10
off to me means glutamin 300+g protein daily
08-02-2005, 12:57 AM #11
but back to the question - how big could i get based on the average, with no juice to maintain the weight.
im 220 5,11 12%bf
08-02-2005, 12:58 AM #12
'off' to me means slin...and using slin...i retain AND gain.
08-02-2005, 01:00 AM #13
wots your stats narkissos?
08-02-2005, 01:02 AM #14
i have gained about 10lbs naturally since my first cycle that ended in Oct...and by the way I was a dumbass and had a crappy/no pct..so took awhile to get back to normal test
08-02-2005, 01:26 AM #15Originally Posted by catlovesfood
Offseason.. i'm around 200 lbs at about 10% BF
I compete in the 170-175 range
08-02-2005, 01:28 AM #16Originally Posted by Narkissos
08-02-2005, 01:29 AM #17
I may do two-three contests per year... and 2 out of three of 'em will be drug-tested...so i generally can't run longer cycles
08-02-2005, 01:37 AM #18
off means slin/igf ...and i also gain..
08-02-2005, 05:15 AM #19Originally Posted by Latimus
08-02-2005, 07:34 AM #20
keep the protein + calories high and clean
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