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    Angry My buddy's future cycle, stop the madness

    please help disuade this confused friend of mine from his crazy as hell cycle (in my opinion)

    16 week cycle:
    test-e 200 to 500mg a week
    deca 200 to 500 a week
    sust 200 to 500 a week
    all the above in 1 injection
    Primo tabs 50mg to 200mg e/d
    Nolva 20 to 70mg e/d
    Clomid 50 to 100 for the last 2 weeks of cycle and 2 weeks after cycle.

    Isn't this a bit overkill for a cycle, it a bit to much I think

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    all the above in 1 injection
    If my maths is right, he could be injecting as much as 9cc! Is he gonna use an empty soda bottle as a barrel?

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    HAHA soda bottle thats the funniest shit ive heard all mourning... i doubt he's going to do that in all 1 injecttion

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    not overkill really if he has a few cycles under his belt,in reality its only 400-1000mg test weekly and 2-500mg deca ,although why he did not get the one form of test beats the hell outa me,he should really split the shots up into twice weekly injects this will keep the blood levels more stable,which in turn will lower the risk of sides and give better results!also twice weekly will lower the amount that hes injectin,we dont want any infections do we!

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    That cycle needs some work. Why Test AND sus? the amount of Deca needs to be less than the Test and it needs to be run for 2 weeks less as well I think. Deca and Test E are shot twice a week but Sus is shot every other day so this will seperate injections. PCT comes 2 weeks after the final shot of Test E so thats when the clomid and Nolva need to start.

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    He got this stuff from one of his other friends and thats who gave him the cycle. I think he got scammed because he kept complaing about not wanting to inject all the time (?). So he was told what he wanted to hear. I'll tell him about the advice and info given to me on this site. He really need to join and ask for himself, thanks every one. Is there a sample cycle on this site, again thanks

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    He should shorten the cycle by 2 weeks? whats wrong with Test-E, what should dumb a**s use? Nolva Can't be used during the cycle? What about estrogen build up?

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    Just for informations sake, Its his first cycle in about 3yrs, any help would be and is needed. THANKS MUCH

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    You said sust 200-500 p/w the smallest it comes in is 250

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    No need to reinvent the wheel. It always amuses me when people think they will come up with some brilliant new way of using aas.

    1-16 Test E or Test C @ 750mg EW (twice weekly injections I.E. monday morning/thursday evening)
    1-14 Deca @ 500mg EW
    1-18 vit B-6 @ 200mg ED
    1-18 Nolva @ 10mg ED
    1-18 Anastrozole @ .25mg ED

    19-22 Clomid @ 100mg ED
    19-22 Nolva @ 20mg ED
    19-22 Anastrozole @ .25mg ED

    Do not taper dosages up or down. (old school)
    A 16 weeker warrants the use of HCG . Doseing schcedules vary depending on who you ask. (do a search)
    Run PCT for a minimum of 4 weeks or until he returns to normal.
    It is OK to mix the test and the deca in one syringe.
    Take the primo tabs or don't take the primo tabs. Personally I don't think it will make much difference.
    Last edited by eGGz; 08-27-2005 at 11:02 AM.

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    He needs to get rid of his stuff and either look up more info or join this forum and start researching.. obviously he doesn't know jack bout what he is about to take.

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    was that a cycle?!!
    it sounded like shopping list

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    shopping list

    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    was that a cycle?!!
    it sounded like shopping list
    No, he bought it from a "friend" of his, how much $ I have no idea. He just showed up with white plastic bag full of goodies, and questions and no needles

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    Quote Originally Posted by traveling man
    please help disuade this confused friend of mine from his crazy as hell cycle (in my opinion)

    16 week cycle:
    test-e 200 to 500mg a week
    deca 200 to 500 a week
    sust 200 to 500 a week
    all the above in 1 injection
    Primo tabs 50mg to 200mg e/d
    Nolva 20 to 70mg e/d
    Clomid 50 to 100 for the last 2 weeks of cycle and 2 weeks after cycle.

    Isn't this a bit overkill for a cycle, it a bit to much I think
    I don't understand the use of both sust and test enth, but oh well. here's what I would do without the sust. Tell him to save what he has and to get more for another cycle...

    week 1-16: 250mg-375mg e3d (mon. morn/thurs. eve.)
    week 1-14: 200mg deca 2x/ew (shoot with test shot)

    ditch the primo and save it for another cycle as well. The bloat from the deca and test will make it hard to see any effects the primo tabs have had. It's better to use primo in a cutter, I would also prefer the primo depot to the primo tab, just personal preference.

    Check out Pheendo's PCT protocol in the pct forum to help out with that aspect of your cycle. Also HCG might be needed. Run a search to get the info you need on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    That cycle needs some work. Why Test AND sus? the amount of Deca needs to be less than the Test and it needs to be run for 2 weeks less as well I think. Deca and Test E are shot twice a week but Sus is shot every other day so this will seperate injections. PCT comes 2 weeks after the final shot of Test E so thats when the clomid and Nolva need to start.
    Because the guy he bought it from told him that it will help Dip s**t keep almost all his mucsle gains after the cycle, (WTF!) don't flame me, I just want to keep this person from hurting his dumb self. I have my own questions to ask so he can join, and prevent myself from being lit-up on this subject!!!!!

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    Thanks every one for your help, I will pass it along, as for me I'm going to dig into some of the good info on this site and learn so I don't make a mess out of my body.

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    i must say im a bit let down..i thought i was going to see more then an amatures cycle....and one shot...what is that all about....

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    Let him inject it all in one shot. Tell him to do the glute. His ass wont be able to sit down or walk for two weeks.

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    shoot it all in his calf.. that'd be a good idea.

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    shoot it all in his calf.. that'd be a good idea.
    Heh-heh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by traveling man
    please help disuade this confused friend of mine from his crazy as hell cycle (in my opinion)

    16 week cycle:
    test-e 200 to 500mg a week
    deca 200 to 500 a week
    sust 200 to 500 a week
    all the above in 1 injection
    Primo tabs 50mg to 200mg e/d
    Nolva 20 to 70mg e/d
    Clomid 50 to 100 for the last 2 weeks of cycle and 2 weeks after cycle.

    Isn't this a bit overkill for a cycle, it a bit to much I think

    tell him to take the test e or the sust, one or the other. Personally i think the sust i junk.

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