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    Unhappy Is a 22 guage, 3/4" 3cc needle enough for injection?

    I recently started a 6-week deca cycle at 200mg per week.
    I had my first injection last week on Sat using a 22 guage, 3/4" needle.
    I read in most places that a 1"needle is required, but unfortunatly all I can get is 3/4" needles. The injection site was a little sore for like two days - I injected my deltoid since the needle is kinda short in length. I'm 5-7 and weigh 150lbs small to medium frame. Will the 3/4" needle do the trick for me or am I wasting and missusing the juice? Since sat - I have only felt a small increase in appetite, but no additional strength or faster recovery time after work outs? Is it to soon to feel anything? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP?
    Greatly appreciated
    Wil

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    3/4 is fine for delts, bi's and tri's but i would get at least a 1" for any other injection site. Personally I would go a little smaller on the pin too. I normally use a 25g 5/8.

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    like Ejuicer said 3/4 is fine for delts, my question is why the hell are you using 22 gauge? that must hurt. I know you're mixing in some Test, right???

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    6 weeks of Deca can be a waste of gear. Deca takes 6 weeks to build up to its effective levels. At which point you will be stopping. Deca by itself can also cause libido/performance problems. Best to incorporate testosterone as a base for future cycle.

    I use 25g 1" for all my injections.

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    22 guage, 3/4" 3cc needle: You're gonna die.

    Works great. If you have a lot of fat on your ass then 1.5" is better.

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    23g or 25g are the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    I recently started a 6-week deca cycle at 200mg per week.

    I'm 5-7 and weigh 150lbs
    Wow, you a big guy, huh? No wonder you are resorting to use gear. Your genetics probably won't let you get any bigger than 150 lbs, huh?

    How old are you?

    Hope you don't mind erectile dysfunction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    I recently started a 6-week deca cycle at 200mg per week.
    I had my first injection last week on Sat using a 22 guage, 3/4" needle.
    I read in most places that a 1"needle is required, but unfortunatly all I can get is 3/4" needles. The injection site was a little sore for like two days - I injected my deltoid since the needle is kinda short in length. I'm 5-7 and weigh 150lbs small to medium frame. Will the 3/4" needle do the trick for me or am I wasting and missusing the juice? Since sat - I have only felt a small increase in appetite, but no additional strength or faster recovery time after work outs? Is it to soon to feel anything? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP?
    Greatly appreciated
    Wil

    don't look for an increase in appetite... gear has never done that for me... if u r doing deca alone then look for a decrease in your apetite for pussy though.. don't be surprised if your dick don't work... u need some test in there..
    not trying to flame u bro, but u are doing so many things wrong...
    deca only= bad idea
    6 weeks of deca= waste of time and money
    22g 3/4 needle= wrong size.. need 1 inch for everything but ass 1.5 for that
    plus it doesn't sound like u have the solid base to start with..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mranak
    Wow, you a big guy, huh? No wonder you are resorting to use gear. Your genetics probably won't let you get any bigger than 150 lbs, huh?

    How old are you?

    Hope you don't mind erectile dysfunction.
    man i hope not everyone on here is as big a prick as you are.......he just asked for some advice.....

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    the most common needle is a 23 guage, 1 inch. for small muscles, 25 guage, 5/8 inch. For HUGE muscles, or a lot of fat to go thru, 1.5 inch needle.

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    Do they make a 22 guage, 3/4" 3cc needle? That's a short and large gauge needle. I think of the 22g BD's in the black package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbjones81
    man i hope not everyone on here is as big a prick as you are.......he just asked for some advice.....
    I gave him a complement. I mean, surely his diet and training were up to snuff prior to starting on the juice, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    Do they make a 22 guage, 3/4" 3cc needle? That's a short and large gauge needle. I think of the 22g BD's in the black package.
    Looks like they do:

    http://bricomedicalsupplies.com/bdsyringes.html

    Product 309569

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    You could also get a decent quad site injection as well. Next time, pick up some 1-1 1/2" pins in a smaller guage.

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    Hi again everyone and thanx for everyones advice
    I'm considering trying to get a hold of 1" 23 gage since I have a tight skinny ass.
    Do they make 24 gage?
    However - from the feed back I received, it seams I'm not gonna get the results Im looking for on a 6 week 200mg DECA cycle alone. I want to gain atleast 15 lbs - I'm eating many small meals a day and I have a pretty good consistant workout plan.
    But if I'm not gonna see no where near those results, then I'm not sure I want to continue the other 5 shots and at most end up limp dick. Is the Deca dick for the duration of the cycle or does it last longer? My second shot is Sat - I must make a decision soon. To continue or not? Once again all suggestions and advice are greatly appreciated.
    Wil

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    Hi again everyone and thanx for everyones advice
    I'm considering trying to get a hold of 1" 23 gage since I have a tight skinny ass.
    Do they make 24 gage?
    However - from the feed back I received, it seams I'm not gonna get the results Im looking for on a 6 week 200mg DECA cycle alone. I want to gain atleast 15 lbs - I'm eating many small meals a day and I have a pretty good consistant workout plan.
    But if I'm not gonna see no where near those results, then I'm not sure I want to continue the other 5 shots and at most end up limp dick. Is the Deca dick for the duration of the cycle or does it last longer? My second shot is Sat - I must make a decision soon. To continue or not? Once again all suggestions and advice are greatly appreciated.
    Wil
    Depends on your body's recovery time, but it may last longer throughout PCT and extended. I wouldnt continue deca. I would discontinue use, and start PCT to get your natural test back up.

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    Hi again everyone and thanx for everyones advice
    I'm considering trying to get a hold of 1" 23 gage since I have a tight skinny ass.
    Do they make 24 gage?
    However - from the feed back I received, it seams I'm not gonna get the results Im looking for on a 6 week 200mg DECA cycle alone. I want to gain atleast 15 lbs - I'm eating many small meals a day and I have a pretty good consistant workout plan.
    But if I'm not gonna see no where near those results, then I'm not sure I want to continue the other 5 shots and at most end up limp dick. Is the Deca dick for the duration of the cycle or does it last longer? My second shot is Sat - I must make a decision soon. To continue or not? Once again all suggestions and advice are greatly appreciated.
    Wil

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    Hi again everyone and thanx for everyones advice
    I'm considering trying to get a hold of 1" 23 gage since I have a tight skinny ass.
    Do they make 24 gage?
    However - from the feed back I received, it seams I'm not gonna get the results Im looking for on a 6 week 200mg DECA cycle alone. I want to gain atleast 15 lbs - I'm eating many small meals a day and I have a pretty good consistant workout plan.
    But if I'm not gonna see no where near those results, then I'm not sure I want to continue the other 5 shots and at most end up limp dick. Is the Deca dick for the duration of the cycle or does it last longer? My second shot is Sat - I must make a decision soon. To continue or not? Once again all suggestions and advice are greatly appreciated.
    Wil
    stop the cycle and get some nolvadex and clomid as your test is already suppressed from 1 shot of deca. run the nolva/clomid (at least nolva) for about 3 weeks. hang out in the diet forum bro. don't resort to steroids just yet

    deca alone is a terrible cycle. not to mention your low dose and short duration. you wont see anything from it but a limp dick

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    Dude read up next time before starting any juice it has helped me alot, I thought I was ready to shoot then I found this site and found an abundance of info that told me I was on the right path but not quite there. Depending if you are ready or not for juice at all I would ad some test quick, what kind of shape are you in now, how old are you, what is youre body fat %?

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    imo shooting with 1 1/2 23 gage is perfect for all shots just dont go in so far on the delts and so on you get the idea

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    PoundPerPound: Here is honest and good advice. Eat more food. Eat until you start to grow. Add mass. Check your routine. Don't resort to steroids at this time.

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    I'm 25 I'm pretty fit 5'-7" 150lbs - I have very little if no fat - dude I'm a 29 waste
    But unfortunatly I cannot get my hands on Test, only Deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
    stop the cycle and get some nolvadex and clomid as your test is already suppressed from 1 shot of deca . run the nolva/clomid (at least nolva) for about 3 weeks. hang out in the diet forum bro. don't resort to steroids just yet

    deca alone is a terrible cycle. not to mention your low dose and short duration. you wont see anything from it but a limp dick
    I cannot get my hands on any of those antiestrogens or test-busters
    Is there anything from GNC that could help me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    I cannot get my hands on any of those antiestrogens or test-busters
    Is there anything from GNC that could help me?
    No GNC stuff won't help. However why dont you click on the sponsor above? They have all the research chemicals for your lab animals

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    I recently started a 6-week deca cycle at 200mg per week.
    I had my first injection last week on Sat using a 22 guage, 3/4" needle.
    I read in most places that a 1"needle is required, but unfortunatly all I can get is 3/4" needles. The injection site was a little sore for like two days - I injected my deltoid since the needle is kinda short in length. I'm 5-7 and weigh 150lbs small to medium frame. Will the 3/4" needle do the trick for me or am I wasting and missusing the juice? Since sat - I have only felt a small increase in appetite, but no additional strength or faster recovery time after work outs? Is it to soon to feel anything? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP?
    Greatly appreciated
    Wil
    I USE 25G 1", I ONLY FELT AN INCREASE IN APPETITE WITH EQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
    No GNC stuff won't help. However why dont you click on the sponsor above? They have all the research chemicals for your lab animals
    what do u mean "They have all the research chemicals for your lab animals"?
    Not sure what u meant

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    what do u mean "They have all the research chemicals for your lab animals"?
    Not sure what u meant
    yeah they have everything you need. Got it? Just click on the link above and you'll know what I mean. Or just click here: tamoxifen
    Last edited by thejuiceisloose; 09-28-2005 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    what do u mean "They have all the research chemicals for your lab animals"?
    Not sure what u meant
    do we need to spell it out??? the chemicals are for research purposes only but one cld theoreticaly ingest them themselves... get it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
    yeah they have everything you need. Got it? Just click on the link above and you'll know what I mean. Or just click here: tamoxifen
    Are these guys w/in the US - I've never bought anything over seas. I thought purchsing these items would be a problem as they need to enter the US? Has anyone been successful when ordering such things?

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    Yes they are, however I have read somewhere that they ship overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    Are these guys w/in the US - I've never bought anything over seas. I thought purchsing these items would be a problem as they need to enter the US? Has anyone been successful when ordering such things?
    they r in the U.S.
    it's legal, at least for now, to sell these products as research chemicals that r not for human consumption. if they were in pill form they wld b illegal.
    they work just as well though if they were to be consumed by humans...

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    pound where r u from?? the U.S.? or outside the U.S.?

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    OK all - everyone on here has been very helpfull
    I have decided to call it quits - all I have available to me is Organon Deca .
    Form what I have heard this deca only cycle will do more harm than good. Luckily I only took a single shot. Its been 5 days and no erectile dysfunction - my collection of porn still does the job LOL. I blew $200 for a 6-week cycle, but my health is more important. Lesson learned, as much research as I did u never really know. I'll probably end up trashing the remaining 5 deca 200 vials. If anyone is interested feel free to message me. And no I"m not a cop just - a bigginer gone bad. Not once did I hear anyone say any positive things about a deca only cycle. My last question is - having taken 1 shot, is it really necessary for me to purchase these chemicals for my animals "see I can get w/ the lingo".
    Once again thanx to all

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    pound where r u from?? the U.S.? or outside the U.S.?
    US here

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    it's up 2 u if u want to get the pct chemicals... if your dick works and u only did 1 shot u might b fine without them.. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoundPerPound
    I'm 25 I'm pretty fit 5'-7" 150lbs - I have very little if no fat - dude I'm a 29 waste
    But unfortunatly I cannot get my hands on Test, only Deca
    Well, I tried to tell you, but you don't get it.

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