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    Strength Cycle????

    Hey Bros

    Im about ready to do my first cycle.

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    26yrs old
    230lbs Bodyweight
    Training serious for 5yrs

    Im pretty lean and pretty strong.

    1)Basicaly im looking for a cycle that I can keep as much as possible from.

    2)Im looking for a cycle that will decrease recovery time and Increase strength. With not so much weight gain.

    3) My results don't have to come over night but i want results that are solid.

    4)Training and diet are Correct.


    Any advice is appreciated.

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    If its your first time i would just run test.

    Var is good for strength gains if you decide to take an oral

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    welp..
    heres what u got.. 0 on cycle experience? thats gonna be ruff
    i have a friend who is a PL'er and he ran prop/win for his first cycle, and he LOVED IT besides the MASSIVE JOINT PAIN... he recovered fast

    another p'l buddy ran tren /prop/win which is my fav but i wouldnt do this till atleast your 3rd proper cycle

    this being said - i would advise you to run a 10 wk cycle of testE for convience and then 8 weeks of OT i hear LOTS of great things about it and its VERY MILD as far as sides and liver problems- good luck and PM me if u have any Q's

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    I had some very good strength gains from using Tbol 50mg/ED.

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    go with some anavar or tren (if you think you can handle the sides)

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    var to kick start then prop/tren var to close out, standard pct and igf with pct should keep a great amount and heal tendons and keep joints safe. Some anti e to.

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    for a powerlifter without the wieght gain:

    prop 150mgs eod wk 1-10
    halotestin 40mgs ed wk 6-10
    PCT

    halo is harsh on the liver so make sure to run milk thistle. it's an awesome drug for PURE STRENGTH without the wieght gain, you'll love it. run adex.25mgs ed for the water wieght associated with the test prop. shouldn't be much though. tell me what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    for a powerlifter without the wieght gain:

    prop 150mgs eod wk 1-10
    halotestin 40mgs ed wk 6-10
    PCT

    halo is harsh on the liver so make sure to run milk thistle. it's an awesome drug for PURE STRENGTH without the wieght gain, you'll love it. run adex.25mgs ed for the water wieght associated with the test prop. shouldn't be much though. tell me what you think.
    HALO is the DEVIL!!

    and GroundandPound.. var isnt exactly used to jump start its a very VERY WEAK AAS

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    Ok it seems that everywere Test is highly recomended for first cycles.

    1)Which test is best for my goals? Recovery and strength?

    2)I understand that PCT is the major factor in how much of the gains you will keep, with PCT in order.

    3)Help set up a cycle of Test and either Anavar or Primobolan . Which would be the better to run with a good Test considering my objectives?

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

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    Test is TEST BRO
    ester is only thing that chnages and thats the delivery method

    Long esters need to be injected 2x a week
    short ester need to be shot ED for best results

    Short esters hit quicker and have less bloat and make comming off easier and are therefore the only kind i use

    Long esters.. meh are long esters

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    I have decided to Run it like this

    WK
    1 Test Porp 50mg ed Nolvadex /10 - 20 mg/Day
    2 Test Porp65mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    3 Test Porp75mg ed, Var 30mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    4 Test Porp90mg ed, Var 40mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    5 Test Porp 90mg ed, Var 50mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    6 Test Porp 75mg ed, Var 50mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    7 Test Porp65mg ed, Var 40mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    8 Test Porp50mg ed, Var 30mg ed Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    9 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    10 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    11 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day5 Day 6 Day 7
    Week9. 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
    Week10.100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
    Week11.50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg


    This is a possible first cycle tell me what you think

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    No man! you dont want to do that to your body....pick a weekly dose and stick with it inorder to keep blood levels consistent. pyramiding like that doesnt work....

    10 weeks 500mgs test prop. 40mgs var ed. Goodluck.

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    trenbolone /haloestin would give dramatic strenght gains. I have done that cycle. In 8 weeks benchpress went from 145 kg to 197.5kg.(about 300 to 400 pounds) Halo promotes more strengt gains than var, and tren is strengt-drug nr.1

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    my first pro meet (powerlifting) i was on a D-bol, sustanon , and tren -700mg/week...and let me say this, I was strong as SHIT

    With that said TREN is the bomb because ive taken D and sus b4 and never was i that freckishly strong. I hope to do it with halo if i can ever find a supplier for it.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    I had some very good strength gains from using Tbol 50mg/ED.
    How long do you run 50mg/ed? Liver tonic?

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