12-03-2005, 12:47 AM #1
after much mental deliberation i have decided on my next cycle here.
Going to be starting in prolly about a week. Anyway i think im going to go:
1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
1-10 Prop 90mg ED
1-8 Tren A 65mgED (never ran tren going to start low and progress up)
1-10 Nolva 10mgED
1-13 l-dex .5EOD
1-PCT B6 200mg ED
PCT standard clomid/nolva combo----considering HCG as well(gotta reasearch it first)
*PCT 3 days after last prop shot*
Milk thistle throughout as well......bromo on hand just in case but im hoping the B6 will do the job.
might throw in a low dose of T3 to tren shutting down T3 poduction (not sure if this dose would warrant this)
Will monitor BP and if gets too high will modify dosing or discontinue. My main concern with this cycle is my cardio, i know tren inhibts breathing somewhat from what i read but ill do the best i can low intensity if i have to...
anyway dunno if im forgetting something but if i think of it ill throw it in..
Last edited by magicstick2003; 12-03-2005 at 08:22 AM.
12-03-2005, 12:51 AM #2
12-03-2005, 12:54 AM #3Originally Posted by Son Of Khadafi
12-03-2005, 12:57 AM #4
12-03-2005, 04:11 AM #5
That cycle stinks!
12-03-2005, 07:14 AM #6
12-03-2005, 08:16 AM #7Originally Posted by Zapp
Last edited by magicstick2003; 12-03-2005 at 08:18 AM.
12-03-2005, 08:21 AM #8
12-03-2005, 08:25 AM #9Originally Posted by taiboxa
12-03-2005, 08:28 AM #10Originally Posted by magicstick2003
tren is MY FAV aas by far! infact its a must in any cycle i run and everythign i do is centered around it..
run it a lil lower than test which is reccommened but i know lots of people runnign it higher than test for Contest Prep.
wat ever you do make sure u run ur test 3-4weeks PAST tren end point .. kuz the metabolites kan stick around for a while and completely shut down your recovery
i would do this
1-10 tren i notice at week 4 it really starts to shine so i like 6 good weeks of solid gains
then weeks 14-15 i run hcg ED for 10 days stopping 4 days prior to start of pct this will make recovery easy as pie
jump start w/ 300mg Clom and then work ur way down
i usually run 2 weeks of clom at 100mg ED and im done w/ it .. and rely on Nolva and Ldex to bring me up .. works great
12-03-2005, 08:41 AM #11
cool thanks for the input. PCT i got down i actually had planned on running the same protocol (sometimesi ll do the 300/200/50 method but with deca i like to go 200 all the way after the 300, so i was going to do the same for the tren ) Anyay hcg was main man ? on this one since i've neevr used it before; if u dont mind me asking what the dosing protocol for the HCG?
12-03-2005, 08:45 AM #12Originally Posted by magicstick2003
run it at 500iu ED for 10 days str8 stopping 4 days out from pct should be more than enuff and this way u kan get max benefits from one 5000iu amp of hcg instead of buying extra
12-03-2005, 08:50 AM #13Originally Posted by taiboxa
12-03-2005, 08:57 AM #14Originally Posted by BigGuns101
but thing is he has to run test well past tren
if i was him i would run tren A shoot it EOD and run TEST E for the main of it then come off on prop
12-03-2005, 09:06 AM #15
shit... i sat down and looked at a calendar and i think im going to have to put this whole thing on hold. i wasn;t thinking through it right in my head but when i see it on paper i just dnt have enough time. Ill be going into fire academy in mid mar. so i dont see how i have time for much. Guess ill have to hold off, prolly go with creatine for now and maybe clen before then hit up a cycle when im done. O well no big deal. i appreciate all the input from you guys it's been helpful, ill end up running this early spring or so.
Last edited by magicstick2003; 12-03-2005 at 09:20 AM.
12-03-2005, 09:59 AM #16
12-03-2005, 10:05 AM #17
12-03-2005, 10:12 AM #18Originally Posted by taiboxa
12-03-2005, 10:17 AM #19
12-03-2005, 10:17 AM #20Originally Posted by Zapp
but do to DBOLS HIGH ASS Ana/andro ratings it is a superb jumpstart for cutting since it has an amazingly anticatabolic effects similar to test.
throw that on the fire w/ tren and test and it is POSSIBLE to gain lean mass while cutting. and dont confuse WATER BLOAT w/ FAT
12-03-2005, 10:22 AM #21
Like I said, you are just defeating the purpose. You are bloating with water, and that is what you are trying to get rid of along with bf while cutting.
12-03-2005, 10:23 AM #22
Tai is right.
I will even go as far as this. you can all do a cutting cycle with drol.
12-03-2005, 10:23 AM #23Originally Posted by gsxxr
12-03-2005, 10:24 AM #24Originally Posted by Zapp
You can keep the bloat down with letro or l-dex.
12-03-2005, 10:24 AM #25
12-03-2005, 10:25 AM #26
Water bloat evntually leave as cycle progresses or some l-dex is taken.Zapp
12-03-2005, 10:25 AM #27
When you come off the cycle. you will loss all the water and have a great base.
12-03-2005, 10:28 AM #28Originally Posted by gsxxr
12-03-2005, 10:30 AM #29
12-03-2005, 10:31 AM #30Originally Posted by BigGuns101
12-03-2005, 10:33 AM #31Originally Posted by Zapp
12-03-2005, 10:33 AM #32
12-03-2005, 10:33 AM #33Originally Posted by Zapp
No you dont. Yes, you can do a cutter with no bloat. But keep in mind there is more the one way to skin a cat. If your looking for size and a lean muscle you can do it.
12-03-2005, 10:34 AM #34Originally Posted by Zapp
EDIT: PEOPLE CUT W/ DNP RIGHT?! .. DNP INDUCES BIG BLOAT.. answer that one
12-03-2005, 10:35 AM #35Originally Posted by Zapp
yes but the d-bol is only being run for the first 4 weeks. this will help blow up the muscle. then the tren will harden it. your only going to hold the water for a few days after you stop runing the D-bol
12-03-2005, 10:35 AM #36Originally Posted by taiboxa
12-03-2005, 10:38 AM #37
I got some bloat from tren , it cut fat but when I stopped I lost 3lbs in a few days had to be water. And like Tia said,bloat and fat are totally diff, you can have water bloat while still burning fat.
12-03-2005, 10:39 AM #38Originally Posted by gsxxr
12-03-2005, 10:41 AM #39
You dont have to agree that is ok.
I'm out i need to get my skiny ass the the gym
12-03-2005, 10:41 AM #40Originally Posted by Zapp
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